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And I know nothing about being a Marine or what kind of aircraft Marines have had to fly for oh so many years.

Remember what happened the day before the start of the Iraq invasion, I do! A CH-46 crashed killing all Marines on board it, Why? Because that is the risk every Marine takes whenever they fly on any Marine aircraft especially a helicopter that was first designed and built in the early sixties.

Do you even know what CH-46 crews refer to their aircraft as?

10,000 rivets flying in close formation!

These aircraft are so old, and so tired that those that haven't crashed by now, can not be flown with a full load of troops as they did when they were flying in Viet Nam. But hey what do any of you Osprey bashers care because of the one accident you know of you damn the Osprey for while you blissfully ignore the entire accident history of the CH-46 as one of the deadliest helicopters ever flown by the Marine Corp with the only possible exception of the Kamen HH-43

At least the rotors on the Osprey don't intermesh via seperate transmissions at opposite ends of the aircraft.

the v-22 can't land in vertical at elevation

can't descend rapidly during insertion due to vortex ring problem STILL

doesn't have ANY WEAPONS on board for defense...NONE

Isn't speced out for anything above 10,000 feet and it's ship to shore delivery is less than alternatives...

this is a cash cow, a disgrace to the Marine Corps, Pentagon, Congress and the corporations that will murder the Marines who serve in order to suck on the nipple of government tax dollars...

If you flew a Cobra with the flight restrictions into "combat" .... you and your Marine brothers would have died in order to pay off Marine flag officers, congressmen, corporate fat cats and union V-22 workers while you are burning to a crisp in some god forsaken jungle or mountain range.

CH-64 may be flying 10,000 rivets but at least they can land vertical, can loose power and auto rotate, can shoot at the enemy on the ground if they have to. I'm to old to ever have to go to war in this bucket of cr@p, but my son isn't and I'm seriously thinking that I might not want my kid flown into a hot LZ in one of these POS.

"Do you even know what CH-46 crews refer to their aircraft as?

10,000 rivets flying in close formation!"

LOL. A good friend of mine is a CH-47 driver in the Army...calls the Chinook, "The only aircraft in the US inventory capable of an air-to-air collision with itself."

During my time in the Army I seem to recall that at some point during every Chinook flight I was on, the crew chief came back, started tearing panels of the wall and tightening things...after awhile, I assumed it was normal, but I always preferred Blackhawks. I actually had a few flights on UH-1s which were ok, and even one in the plywood box under a CH-54...exciting in a nightmare kind of way.