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Bush's top aide wanted Rumsfeld sacked
The Daily Telegraph ^
| October 2, 2006
| Damien McElroy
Posted on 10/01/2006 11:36:31 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Powell is a liberal puke.
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:25:57 AM PDT
by
Unicorn
(Too many wimps around.)
To: MadIvan
Andrew Card said George W Bush rebuffed his and others' demands to sideline Mr Rumsfeld...Don't presume this story is true. Card is on the Laura Ingraham show right now categorically denying this quote.
42
posted on
10/02/2006 6:28:20 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(Living His life abundantly.)
To: Petronski
To expand on the Card comments on Ingraham's show, he said he kept a "hit by a bus" notebook with a list of potential replacements for every White House job, including his own. Part of his job as Chief of Staff was to suggest personnel changes, and to be ready with a short list in case it was needed, but his suggestions were in the nature of "now might be a good time for this," NOT "c'mon, Mr. President, this guy's got to go," which is what Woodward seems to imply.
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:33:54 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(Living His life abundantly.)
To: verity
"Under Rummy whom I served under during his first miserable tenure" So you were his military aide? You know good and well what it meant. I was active duty military under Rummy. I saw the end of his tenure as Gerald Ford's Secretary of Defense and the conditions he left. I also served on active duty all of Carters term except for three months. Many Republicans like to use the term Hollow Carter Military but ignore the fact it was hollow when he took over.
44
posted on
10/02/2006 6:38:20 AM PDT
by
cva66snipe
(If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
To: MadIvan
Yes. They should have.
Washington is a stinking hole of partisan backstabbing and over-paid, CYA bureaucrats who think they should run the country, make blood sport of "taking the big guy down," and want their names in books. Their cover is "free speech" and the "public's right to know". Neither the State Dept. nor the Pentagon are immune from the disease.
Add the artful Mr. Woodward. He wrote two very favorable books on the administration -- apparently just enough to gain false confidences. He frames his themes to boost book sales, and voila. The inevitable hit piece.
How some people manage to run a war, a state department, or the CIA for that matter, when you're plagued with the stupid and vainglorious is an amazement.
45
posted on
10/02/2006 6:46:22 AM PDT
by
GVnana
(Former Alias: GVgirl)
To: Steel Wolf
"I don't want to jeopardize my legacy" would probably be a good ballpark answer. Rumsfeld needed to be replaced with Card and Powell. The only reason not to do so, considering how poorly our efforts Iraq and Afghanistan are doing, is because of the fears that it would be seen as evidence that Iraq and Afghanistan aren't doing well. When your PR angle is 'The sun will come up tomorrow', it's downright dangerous to the message to make moves to the contrary. Probably more on the money that you think.
To: MadIvan
In a television interview, Mr Card revealed that he had kept a notebook while working as Mr Bush's top aide and noted on two separate occasions that he felt that the time was right to dismiss the sometimes abrasive Mr Rumsfeld...Glad this a-- is gone, probably had something to do with Laura Bush going to the tv shows to cut us (non-Miers fans) down. I don't know whose idea was this exactly, but I believe he was still there when this took place. Whoever suggested it is an idiot.
47
posted on
10/02/2006 7:13:13 AM PDT
by
ElPatriota
(Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
To: MadIvan
Amazing that our President ever trusted this Card.
To: MadIvan
Doesn't matter what Card thinks .. The President appoints his cabinet
But if this is true .. I am surprised Card would do this to the President
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posted on
10/02/2006 7:54:39 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
To: Steel Wolf
Thank you for you opinion even though I reject it.
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posted on
10/02/2006 8:17:21 AM PDT
by
verity
(Mohammed is a Dirt Bag)
To: cva66snipe
"You know good and well what it meant."
Yes I did.
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posted on
10/02/2006 8:24:50 AM PDT
by
verity
(Mohammed is a Dirt Bag)
To: MadIvan
The local Boro Assembly has scheduled a special meeting on a resolution to recommend Rumsfeld be sacked. This is incredible that the local gov't, non-partisan by charter, has an interest in national politics.
52
posted on
10/02/2006 8:27:38 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
To: MadIvan
I thank Card for saying that Mrs. Bush had no part in trying to dismiss Rumsfeld and the Woodward book stated. That was a lie and it should have been exposed for the Woodward truth fantasy that it was..
To: MadIvan
Mr Card was forced to deny, however, that Laura Bush, the First Lady, had joined him in a campaign against Mr Rumsfeld.Forced to deny? It makes it sound like he told that to Woodward and then was forced to deny it. I'd like to know if Woodward claims that Card told him that about Laura, because if he didn't get it from Card, that means that Woodward made it up.
54
posted on
10/02/2006 8:55:53 AM PDT
by
alnick
To: MadIvan
This is evidence of a strange Bush family disease. They put Liberal twerps like Card in positions of power only to see them squeal like pigs when the heat is turned up. He might as well just appoint Democrats and cut out the middle-man.
To: MadIvan
Separately, a new biography of Colin Powell, the former secretary of state, says that Mr Bush sacked the former general and bluntly rejected his analysis that the war in Iraq had become a failed project.
Powell, and this really surprised me, was a non-supporter of his president while still in office. This became evident in the case of Armitage (trage?) and Plame....as the details came out it appeared that Powell was probably playing political games.
He should have been sacked.
56
posted on
10/02/2006 12:03:02 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
To: MadIvan; All
Okay, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't everything else Woodward said completely and absolutely WRONG?! Why is everyone so eager to believe that he's telling the truth about Card but nothing else? I think FReepers are incredibly anxious to destroy Andy Card every chance they get and it's really pissing me off.
57
posted on
10/02/2006 1:09:40 PM PDT
by
ilovew
(I love being a DoD intern...)
To: Petronski
Thank you!
I read more than one post citing Card's denial on FR this weekend but couldn't find them quickly.
58
posted on
10/02/2006 1:24:38 PM PDT
by
Let's Roll
( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
To: AmeriBrit
I have an answer...a three letter answer.
Then, there's the embellishment to that answer...When you do the right things (as a person or a nation) for the right reasons, good things happen. Any other combo doesn't work.
I do believe the Dems double standards on many things lately are proving the second half of my answer ;-) too.
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posted on
10/02/2006 1:29:22 PM PDT
by
NordP
(America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
To: cva66snipe
Nope. Rummy is our best Secretary of Defense ever.
60
posted on
10/02/2006 1:30:25 PM PDT
by
ilovew
(I love being a DoD intern...)
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