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CA: Yes on Propositions 1B, 1E; no on 1C, 1D
The Argus ^ | Oct. 1, 2006 | The Argus

Posted on 10/01/2006 9:17:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion

-Proposition 1B: The biggest chunk, $19.9 billion, is for transportation projects that will cost $38.9 billion to repay. Most of the money, $11.3 billion, would be spent to improve highways and local roads... YES

Proposition 1C allots $2.85 billion for housing and shelter...But this is a sector of our economy in which public and private funds compete. NO

Proposition 1D would upgrade and build more schools at every level...NO

Proposition 1E is a $4.1 billion bond to improve disaster preparedness and flood prevention...YES

We cant afford everything we need right now. But voting no on every measure is not in our states best interest, either. Providing funds for our crumbling transportation infrastructure and vulnerable levees are our most pressing needs.

(Excerpt) Read more at insidebayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bonds; california; callegislation; capropositions; elections; prop1abcde; prop1b; prop1e
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To: glorgau

Arnold put the redistricting proposition on the special election ballot, to make it possible tohave real elections, but the voters defeated that.

Right now the districts are so gerrymandered that you can't get rid of the Dems in the Legislature.


61 posted on 10/01/2006 11:18:52 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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McClintock recommends voting this way:

1A YES (spend gas tax on roads)
1B NO roads/infrastructure bond
1C NO housing bond
1D NO school bond
1E YES levees bond

83 YES Jessica's law
84 NO parks, conservation
85 YES parental notification
86 NO cigarette tax
87 NO tax on "big bad oil companies" (incentive for them to leave state)
88 NO real estate tax increase
89 NO "campaign funding"
90 YES limiting eminent domain
62 posted on 10/01/2006 11:42:20 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: doodlelady

"Angelides little DICCs."

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LOL!

How right you are... again. :)


*DICC = Democrat in Conservative's Clothing


63 posted on 10/01/2006 11:44:13 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: newzjunkey

I agree with Tom McClintock's recommendations on everything, except 1 B, where I thin that our roads are in such desperate condition, that we need to have them fixed now.

It's like when you need to buy meat and the only meat available is meat with bone and fat, but you need to buy the whole package, to get the meat you need.


64 posted on 10/01/2006 11:47:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
If these issues are as dire as you say, then why is it taking the ballot proposition process to solve them? Why aren't our elected officials in Sacramento solving these problems for us?

These propositions are boondoggles, sponsored by special interests who have a financial stake in the outcome.

-PJ

65 posted on 10/01/2006 11:50:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: FairOpinion
His reasoning: Prop. 1B Transportation Bond: NO! Although some of this money is for long overdue road construction, most goes for equipment, maintenance and social programs that will be obsolete decades before our children have finished paying off the debt. Californians pay the third highest tax per gallon of gasoline in the country – and yet we rank 43rd in per capita spending on highways. Our neglected roads are not the taxpayers’ fault.

I have to disagree with Tom's apparent optimism that we will have a better option than 1B any time soon. Knowing the state of the roads, I'm leaning towards a YES on 1B, but haven't read the language for myself as yet.

66 posted on 10/01/2006 11:55:43 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: FairOpinion

I wish redistricting and the forbidding unions from extorting dues for campaigns against member's wishes had passed in '05.


67 posted on 10/02/2006 12:00:52 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: newzjunkey

"I have to disagree with Tom's apparent optimism that we will have a better option than 1B any time soon. "


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This is the reason I think we need to vote for 1B. $11.3 M out of the $19M goes for roads, but some of the rest of it is useful as well.

This is how the article summarizes it:

"Proposition 1B: The biggest chunk, $19.9 billion, is for transportation projects that will cost $38.9 billion to repay. Most of the money, $11.3 billion, would be spent to improve highways and local roads; $4 billion goes to public transportation; $3.2 to improving the movement of goods through ports, highway and rail systems; and the final $1.5billion advances disaster response on transit systems and upgrades rail crossings, bridges, ramps and overpasses. We recommend a yes vote on Prop. 1B. "


68 posted on 10/02/2006 12:06:47 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
$11.3 M out of the $19M goes for roads

False. $11.3 B out of $38.9 B (29%) goes for roads, with even that small percentage being subject to still more looting by Arnold and his Rat appointees for other programs.

69 posted on 10/02/2006 4:11:27 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: FairOpinion

I don't live in CA, but from my view, 1B and 1C counter each other, as do 1E and 84...


70 posted on 10/16/2006 1:37:37 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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