Posted on 10/01/2006 8:48:34 AM PDT by roostercogburn
A fugitive gunman accused of killing a Florida sheriff’s deputy was shot 68 times by SWAT team officers who found him hiding in the woods, according to autopsy results.
Police fired 110 shots at Angilo Freeland, 27, the target of a massive manhunt in central Florida following the shooting death of Polk County Sheriff’s Deputy Matt Williams Thursday.
“That’s all the bullets we had, or we would have shot him more,” Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel newspaper.
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Did the autopsy figure out why he died?
Seems to me you don't know crap about firearms, the police or this story.
The whole thing was over in SECONDS. No time to reload unless your Annie Oakley.
Yes they fired until their weapons were empty (no more bullets) but they did not reload and then keep shooting at a corpse.
It's fairly clear from your point of view they reloaded. They fired all their bullets per the quote of the officer.
LISTEN UP. You have obviously never fired a gun. Let me 'splain it to you. I gun has 'x' number of bullets in it. When 'x' number has been fired the gun is EMPTY. To reload you must remove the magazine (pistols) and reinsert a loaded magazine. You must then release the slide or manually rack another bullet into firing position. This can be done very quickly if you are prepared to do so but in normal tactical use this will take 5-10 seconds. All firing had stopped in about 4 seconds so NO RELOADING took place. OK?
You dont stop fearing for your life until you run out of bullets and then realize that "you got him".
">> That's gotta leave a mark. <<"
Actually, 68 + through-and-throughs - overlays = ????
Gotta love it Bump!!
Becki
My assumption based on what little I knew of the perp. If he's not an American I appologize for the mistake. In any event, he's not white, and therefore I'd expect Rev. Al and Rev. Jesse to show up.
If you were to catalog all police shootings in the United States over, say, the last ten or twenty years (you probably wouldn't want to look back earlier, because to keep it to an apples-to-apples comparison you would not want to mix the more recent widespread use of semi-automatic weapons by LEOs with the prevailing use of revolvers by LEOs in earlier times), and plot histograms of the total number of rounds fired and rounds that hit the perp(s) in a single incident, the reported 110 shots fired (by LEOs) and 68 hits would almost certainly be a far "outlier" (in the statistical sense) that would and should warrant extra scrutiny.
The count in this incident may be less than, for example, the count of rounds fired in the Miami FBI shootout (look it up on Google if you don't remember it) or the North Hollywood shootout, however in those cases I believe that there were multiple perps whereas this was a case of a single perp. So, yes, this large number of rounds fired and large number of hits should raise some eyebrows. Your attempt to restate my "logic" is far off base.
Handguns do not have "clips". They have magazines.
Kinda screws up your line.
Further, one continues to shoot until one is sure the threat is no longer a threat. If that takes 12+/- shots per Officer in a matter of seconds so be it.
I asked you, what your policy would be to prevent this "problem" from ocurring?
The SOB is dead, that is all that matters. All the slick lawyers on earth can't reduce his sentence to life in prison.
If some tried to kill him even deader, who can blame them?
That would certainly come as a surprise to both of my S&W Model 625's, which are handguns that have "clips" and not magazines.
By somebody who doesn't practice
When I train, my mag swap time is about 2-3 secs. At the point where the first guy ran dry, others would still be firing, and training is supposed to be to reload immediately
625s are revolvers. You may have speed loaders for them and these may (though I have not heard that before) be called clips but in general weapon parlance a clip is an internal part of the weapon that is not removed for loading.
Common misconceptions
The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, or more accurately, a specific type of magazine known as a detachable box magazine. This is an incorrect usage of the term. In actuality, clips and magazines perform two different functions. It may be said that clips are used to load magazines, and magazines are used to load firearms.
http://www.answers.com/topic/clip-ammunition
Your "speed loaders" load a firearm not a magazine.
My own policy is irrelevant. The LEOs' department policies are relevant, however. On its face, the statement attributed to Sheriff Grady Judd (“That’s all the bullets we had, or we would have shot him more...”) appears to be indicative of neither discipline nor professionalism.
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