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Fund loses $8.7b in month, calls it a day
The Sydney Morning Herald ^
| 10/2/06
Posted on 10/01/2006 8:36:56 AM PDT by verum ago
AMARANTH Advisors, the $US9.2 billion hedge fund that lost $US6.5 billion ($8.7 billion) in less than a month, is preparing to shut down.
Nicholas Maounis, its founder, sent a letter to investors last night informing them that the fund was suspending all redemptions for September 30 and October 31, "to enable the Amaranth funds to generate liquidity for investors in an orderly fashion, with the goal of maximising the proceeds of asset dispositions".
Investors have been meeting Amaranth executives throughout last week, many demanding the return of their money.
(Excerpt) Read more at smh.com.au ...
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Miscellaneous; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: amaranth; energy; maounis; naturalgas
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:36:57 AM PDT
by
verum ago
To: verum ago
I guess that means there won't be much left over for bonuses.
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:39:05 AM PDT
by
Night Hides Not
(Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
To: verum ago
Better put some ice on that.
To: verum ago
...and another 32 year old turk gets a book contract.
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:42:03 AM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
("...does not suffer fools gladly...")
To: verum ago
lol.
"bet aggressively on natural gas."
And lost..lost..lost.
To: Night Hides Not
Back-of-the-envelope calculation indicates the fund lost more than $414 million per business day in September. Bonuses only kick in at a loss of $500 million per day. Sorry.
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:43:55 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: verum ago
Some days suck more than others.
The dude that ran this fund made enough last year to retire. Punk.
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:44:43 AM PDT
by
Toby06
(Hydrogen is not a fuel source. Hydrogen is an energy storage method, like a battery.)
To: Night Hides Not
I guess that means there won't be much left over for bonuses.That was probably the first priority. After that come the employees and investors.
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:46:24 AM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: verum ago
""to enable the Amaranth funds to generate liquidity for investors in an orderly fashion, with the goal of maximising the proceeds of asset dispositions"."
Translation, we're going to dump these turkeys before they turn off the lights and leave the spare change on the floor.
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:47:19 AM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
To: verum ago
The essence of hedge funds is that they promise high returns in exchange for potentially insane risk. Anybody remember the
Long-Term Capital Management hedge fund debacle? LTCM went down in a big way, so big that the Fed had to step in to deal with LTCM's inability to fulfill its obligations to other investors, so that it wouldn't bring down the whole economy
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:47:44 AM PDT
by
SauronOfMordor
(A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
To: happinesswithoutpeace; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow
bet aggressively on natural gasBANG! went the money.
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:47:50 AM PDT
by
dighton
To: happinesswithoutpeace
"bet aggressively on natural gas."
and natural gas aggressively beat the $hit out of the fund in response
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:48:19 AM PDT
by
verum ago
(The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
To: dighton
To: Toby06
Yeah! he probably did, but he should serve a few ass-banging jail time years for his mistakes...
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posted on
10/01/2006 8:56:04 AM PDT
by
Gaffer
To: JennysCool
The list of hedge fund disasters is too long to print, but this one had a nice twist in that it came from an excess of pessimism. So far, I have not read any hyper sympathetic portrayals of Amaranth investors who were poor blind widows and orphans, but it has to be just around the corner. Funny how otherwise intelligent people can expect 2-3x the returns of the market, but with no more risk.
To: SauronOfMordor
The essence of hedge funds is that they promise high returns in exchange for potentially insane risk.
Actually the opposite is true. *MOST* hedge funds promise above market returns with LESS risk, measured as volitility, standard deviation, Sharpe ratio, maximum drawdown, etc.
What these articles don't tend to cover is the thousands of funds which outperform thier benchamarks by several hundred basis points every reporting period will little variation. Those funds are far more typical than Amarinth.
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posted on
10/01/2006 9:02:15 AM PDT
by
jas3
To: SauronOfMordor
Sorry, Sauron, the Fed never ''stepped in'' in the LTCM debacle, except to the extent that Bill McDonough convened an assemblage of the major investment banks and bankers, including our good friend (cough) now-Governor Jon Corzine of Goldman Sachs, in order for
them to step in and bail out LTCM.
Not one penny of either Fed money (yes, unlike the US gov't, the Fed has its own assets) or taxpayer money was involved in the LTCM bailout.
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posted on
10/01/2006 9:16:47 AM PDT
by
SAJ
(debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
To: verum ago
The more that this happens, the harder it will be for these same fund managers to drive oil futures up again. Losing 8 plus billion dollars in a month will kill that market dead.
LLS
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posted on
10/01/2006 9:17:58 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
To: verum ago
"Nicholas Maounis, its founder, sent a letter to investors last night informing them that the fund was suspending all redemptions for September 30 and October 31"
I'll bet it sucks to be him.
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posted on
10/01/2006 9:18:43 AM PDT
by
MineralMan
(Non-evangelical Atheist)
To: MineralMan
Amaranth's energy desk, run by a young trader, Brian Hunter, bet aggressively on natural gas. When certain prices fell during September, the fund found itself in positions too big to liquidate.
I think it sucks even more to be Mr. Brian Hunter
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posted on
10/01/2006 9:22:10 AM PDT
by
verum ago
(The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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