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A Patient Enemy:On 9/11, America Entered A War That The Terrorists Had Already Begun
Family Security Matters. ^ | 9/29/06 | Walid Phares

Posted on 09/30/2006 7:59:30 AM PDT by Valin

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1 posted on 09/30/2006 7:59:31 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

"But it is now proven through al Qaeda and other totalitarian movements and regimes that the lethal enemy of Jihadism is democracy"

And those last 4 paragraphs are right-on!


2 posted on 09/30/2006 8:10:49 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...and his head is so tiny...))
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To: Valin
It started back in the 600's

Quran-4:89— Take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and kill them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks.

Sura 9:5 of the “Koranus,” “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”

"Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God." Sura 9:29

"Strike off their heads then, and strike off from them every finger tip." - Sura 8:12

Reaaalll peacefull like.


Aap aap ahh dap dap!!!!!
It's a religion of peace
It's a religion of peace



3 posted on 09/30/2006 8:16:53 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Never hurl the letter Q into a privet bush)
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"In the decades after World War II, the bulk of the Sunni Islamists concentrated on the Soviet Union and communism as a prime enemy, not because they supported a free market economy and NATO, but because they perceived atheist socialism as a competitor to be eliminated first. Wahabism offered to work with the U.S.-led West against the Soviets, and Washington extended its support to the Mujahidin in Afghanistan."
The U.S. Left--including its Political Machine, i.e. the Democrat Party, and its Propaganda Machine, i.e. the "Mainstream Newsmedia"--are working under a similar pact today: It has allied itself with terrorists, tyrants, anti-American movements, and anything that will help eliminate U.S. hegemony and establish the Leftists' Marxist agenda, not because they support Islam or any other religion, but because they perceive liberty, capitalism (which is liberty), and a powerful, free, liberal, capitalist United States as the competitor to be eliminated first.
4 posted on 09/30/2006 8:18:12 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( 9/11 was never repeated thanks to President George W. Bush.)
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But just as critical is the ability of the members of these societies to understand that when the U.S. and its allies intervene in a post 9/11 era, it is not to rule over them and govern their way of life. Rather, it is to free them so that they can make the choices they deem appropriate.

It is the ability to make choices that will defeat terrorism, be it Jihadi or Baathist. The struggles in Afghanistan, Iraq and Lebanon today are about new democracies, freed by the U.S. and its coalition, attempting to grow, while forces of fascism and Jihadism are attempting to keep them down.

The debate in Washington needs to grasp and aggressively emphasize that dimension of the conflict, for without this understanding, U.S. support for the real war on terror will fade.

Dead-on commentary. I hope that Dr. Phares' words of wisdom are being heard by those with the power to implement them in this war on terror.

5 posted on 09/30/2006 8:22:54 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Yes. And what does this have to do with the way most Muslims live their life?


6 posted on 09/30/2006 8:23:19 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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No No No No. Its just Afghanistan and OBL. thats were the real war on terror is. Once Obl is captured we can all go back to peace in our times
7 posted on 09/30/2006 8:31:34 AM PDT by sachem longrifle (proud member of the fond Du lac band of the Ojibwa people)
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To: sachem longrifle

You do of course know the the Cheney/Rove/Bush/Rumsfeld/Halliburton war machine has OBL. Yes he's "living the sweet life out in Southern California's beautiful San Fernando Valley!"


8 posted on 09/30/2006 8:49:16 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Savage Beast

BUMP!


9 posted on 09/30/2006 8:57:46 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Valin

bump


10 posted on 09/30/2006 9:02:54 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Ma'am, you don't have to thank us. You just go beat him for us." Soldier to Irey re: Murtha)
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Put simply..world terrorism is the result of secular/democratic growing pains in the ME.

History shows that these things don't happen without bloodshed...sadly.

11 posted on 09/30/2006 9:10:14 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Valin

Great article. Thanks for posting it.


12 posted on 09/30/2006 9:19:38 AM PDT by MSSC6644
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To: Earthdweller

Well put!


13 posted on 09/30/2006 9:23:36 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Valin

Excellent post.

Thanks.

Exceedingly true.

Wake up world!

DOH!


14 posted on 09/30/2006 9:24:18 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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This was exactly the point of Bush's decision to invade Iraq, and why this strategy is not only a significant factor in the WOT (more correctly, the war against Islamist Jihadism) it is in fact THE MOST significant factor.

Bush's gamble -- and it was a gamble with completely unpredictable outcome -- was that freedom to pursue constructive life would wean these people from their violent impulses, and bring about the internal reforms which are absolutely critical to a long-lasting stability and peace in this region -- and by extension, the rest of the civilized world.

Like President Bush, I am an optimist, and I believe this was a good gamble to take.

It's too bad his administration has not been more effective in communicating the benefits of this effort to the USA and the world, and it has been borderline criminal that the Democrats and partisan media have gone all out to deceive everyone about this great challenge, merely for their own political gain.

15 posted on 09/30/2006 9:40:48 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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This was exactly the point of Bush's decision to invade Iraq, and why this strategy is not only a significant factor in the WOT (more correctly, the war against Islamist Jihadism) it is in fact THE MOST significant factor.

Amazing how many people don't seem to understand this.
Remember right after 9-11 there were people scream Root Causes, Root Causes, Root Causes! We need to adress the Root Causes!
Well that's exactly what we are doing in Iraq. Until people remember this they are doomed to be disappointed and frustrated with what's going on there.


16 posted on 09/30/2006 9:47:48 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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Great article. Thanks for posting.

I would venture that this war has been going on for 1300 years (hence the tagline) and the U.S first became involved when THOMAS JEFFERSON was president, not Dubya. Barbary Pirates, "Shores of Tripoli", etc...Just don't try and tell the left that.

While one could argue that the U.S is involved because of Wilsonian dabbling circa WWI and the drawing of artificial lines in the sand, the truth is they would have come after us sooner or later. Europe is mostly done. We are all that's left to stop them.

17 posted on 09/30/2006 9:55:37 AM PDT by MattinNJ (The West has been fighting the war on terror for 1300 years.)
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"...and THEY (jihadist) will stop at NOTHING until YOU are dead!" - Terminator

5.56mm

18 posted on 09/30/2006 10:04:25 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MattinNJ

"Remember right after 9-11 there were people scream Root Causes, Root Causes, Root Causes! We need to adress the Root Causes!
Well that's exactly what we are doing in Iraq. Until people remember this they are doomed to be disappointed and frustrated with what's going on there."
Reply 16

After 9-11 we had 3 choices
1 Ignore what happened or treat it like a law enforcement problem. (not gonna happen! OBL and the radicals finally got our attention)
2 Start throwing bombs around the Islamic world. (Give OBL what we wanted and thought we would do)
3 Start addressing the real root caues of the problem (Lack of free open governments and a prosperous population)

Option #3 is why we went into Iraq, and why we are fighting the way we are.


19 posted on 09/30/2006 10:06:53 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: M Kehoe

Hope they packed a lunch.


20 posted on 09/30/2006 10:08:21 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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