Posted on 09/30/2006 7:13:34 AM PDT by tgambill
BELGRADE – Just 12 percent of Serbs believe Serbia will hold on to its Kosovo province, according to the results of an opinion poll published on Friday that fly in the face of Belgrade's official line. Fifty-eight percent said they wanted the United Nations-administered province to remain part of Serbia, but few believe it is a realistic expectation, said pollster Marko Blagojevic.
'We have two dimensions here. One emotional, and the other rational,' said Blagojevic, of the respected Centre for Free Elections and Democracy (CeSID).
Serbian leaders 'managed to convince the people they want Kosovo to remain part of Serbia, but simply did not make a good enough case for them to expect this,' he said.
The United Nations is expected to decide within months whether to grant Kosovo a form of supervised independence, seven years after NATO wrested control of the majority Albanian province to stop what it said was becoming a bloodbath.
Serbia says Kosovo's amputation would violate international law and embolden ethnic separatists across Europe.
Parliament is poised to adopt a new state constitution that enshrines Kosovo as Serb land forever. Rhetoric plays constantly on its almost mythic status, the Serbs' Orthodox heartland and site of their epic 1389 defeat by the Ottoman Turks.
But of two million people who live there, 90 percent are ethnic Albanians who lost 10,000 people in the 1998-99 conflict and would see any return to Serb rule as a fresh call to war.
Diplomats say independence is almost certain.
According to the CeSID poll, conducted between Aug 26 and Sept 5, 36 percent said they expected independence. Seventeen percent thought the territory would be split in two, with Serbia taking a thin slice of mainly Serb land in the north.
Only 12 percent thought Kosovo would remain an autonomous region of Serbia, while 29 percent were unsure.
Serbs and Albanians opened direct talks in February in Vienna but there has been no compromise on the central issue of Kosovo's future status. U.N. mediator Martti Ahtisaari is expected to propose a solution by November which
Yes there are very powerful people trying to take over the world so to speak. There are also a lot of powerful people that do not want that to happen. If the new world order people had as much power as is claimed they would have taken over the world after WWII. These guys have power but they don’t have as much power as you think.
” I also discovered without a doubt that Pearl Harbor was in fact set up for the kill.”
Not a ‘set up’ but Roosevelt willingly allowed Peal Harbor to be hit hard, most likely to get the people to support the war.
There was also a rumor just before all the joint chief of staff where fired by Clinton that a Coup was in the works. The FDR story is interesting here is a lot more on it. Butler wasn’t a Fascist by any means. Be sure to read the comments, because there are two sides to this story. I believe Butler was on our side. The story you are telling is coming from people that where known to be communist at the time.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1199190/posts
Thanks.
"These guys have power but they don’t have as much power as you think."
They so far have created every war since history goes back just about. Their strength is the secrecy and money control. They have been responsible for the JFK, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and a few others I won't mention due to a total lack of supporting evidence, but speculation based on knowing their strategy and final goal. They strive on conflict and will remove any peaceful solution to the conflict they have found or created.
You are correct, there are several steps that can be taken and are being taken to combat this group. There are active measures being taken as we write to combat this group. They use the CFR and Royal Institute of International Affairs (England), as their front. They have an agenda that spans laws, Banking, Military, oil companies, automobile Manufacturing, computers, Communication and Transportation, media, and Education nationwide. It's bigger than one can imagine. You are correct in that they can be dealt with, successfully? that remains to be seen.
Pearl Harbor was a way that the NWO propoents could use to justify entering the war in Europe to the American public. The globalist supported and financed Hitler early on got him rolling and now he was what I have coined, "The wind up toy". You wind it up and let it go thus creating the need for a war. They did just that, but using I.G. Farbin Chemical cartel to fund the Nazi movement. Without this financial backing the Nazi movement would not have survived. I.G. Farbin got their backing from Wall Street, and big business. Check out Henry Ford and General Motors....you will be a bit surprised.
I agree that Butler was in no way or means a facist. You must have misread my comments or I didn't write them clearly enough, but Butler was absolutely on our side. His integrity and patriotism was beyond reproach. You are correct. I believe that if you reread, I mention that if it weren't for him whistleblowing we would be a facist country with a dictatorship. They probably chose him due to his experience, his "perceived understanding" of how the wars were created, relative to his quotes about how
http://democracyrising.us/content/view/191/164/
General Butler: "Back in my day we had similar people. In Italy there was Benito Mussolini, who said: "Fascism . ..believes neither in the possibility or the utility of perpetual peace . . .War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy." As you may know, I was arrested and threatened with court-martial for criticizing Mussolini at the time. Later on, I stopped the bankers' putsch against Roosevelt.. See, some Wall Street big shots wanted to topple President Roosevelt and the New Deal. I was a life-long Republican, and they knew that I was a soldier's general, so they approached me and wanted me to lead an army of five hundred thousand veterans to overthrow the government. We'd do the whole thing from Civilian Conservation Corps camps, which were already set up. If I refused, they were going to get MacArthur. Well, I blew the whistle on them. I always sided with the underdog against the rich and powerful with their damnable wars, and I'd do it again.
I spent 33 years and 4 months in active service as a member of our country's most agile military force--the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from second lieutenant to Major General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. I suspected I was part of a racket all the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service."
thank you..much. Good link and followups....this helps with my research.
I've got 19 pages of MS Word....I can try to cut it down to as signficant quotes and reports or send it privately. It's quite sobering. If you can shoot it down, I would be relieved. It fits in a bigger picture and it's bothersome. Took me all weekend, as I was hoping that it would cause me to retract.
in the meantime and in addition...........
http://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-Pearl-Harbor/dp/0743201299
Sounds like you need to retain an editor to help you organize your thoughts.
Again, I can wait, but this is starting to feel like you're simply buying time rather than answering what should be a simple question.
in the meantime and in addition...........
Been there, done that. Stinnett suffers from the same "I'll believe what I want to believe and to hell with the actual facts" syndrome that some other folks suffer from.
Do you always hide in the bathroom and shake. You mostly look at a glass full of water as half empty I'm sure. Sort of like your consciousness. :))
I don't buy time if you would care to review the last few messages. When I'm good and ready was the last time we discussed this issue.......It's not buying time, it's in my own time when I feel it necessary. Now, if you weren't such a turtle in your shell or cowardly, you would come up with your own assessment, valid assertions with references and not the government slant or hide behind mostly fabricated information. You simply want others to provide you with assertions, facts etc.....so that you can lazily make feeble attempts to distort the facts............
Simple question? Lolol...you are a hoot. If it were a simple question there would not be books written about the subject. Also, if you weren't on such a personal attack and really wanted to know you would spend the time to either read the book summary or buy the book yourself. There are many of them.....for this simple question you ask....:)))
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Do you?
Remember, Tom - the question here is whether Pearl Harbor was a setup. I'm waiting for you to support your assertion to that effect, and growing ever more amused at your inability or unwillingness to defend that assertion.
Well, if you are amused, then it means that hide in the bathroom, with your computer afraid to come out and find out what is really out there. It's sad that everyone else has to do the work for you as you sit and pretend to be interested and yet you throw out these assertions......blah blah blah. :0 You are afraid to do your own research and maybe be wrong. It's called "Shaking in the bathroom symdrome" or in your case, maybe a little anal retentiveness........:))
Since you are amused, they I would not want to take this little bit of entertainment from you....you can wait longer. I'm very comfortable about what I've researched.
Yes, that's fascinating and all, but it doesn't address the issue of Pearl Harbor, does it?
Quite the contrary, your digression into the juvenile simply reinforces the view that you're unable or unwilling to apply yourself to the task at hand.
http://www.savekosovo.org
If its Reuters its wrong.
If it's CNN it's absolutely biased and probably wrong...as Kosovo has demonstrated, and Peter Brock's book, Media Cleansing, without question.
lolol..your digression began in 2000 when you were posting then.....nothing has changed. Your M.O. has been consistent I can say......
You can handle it...just don't let the Anal retentiveness get you down......
Quite the contrary, your digression into the juvenile simply reinforces the view that you're unable or unwilling to apply yourself to the task at hand.
You have got to be careful what is good information and what is bad.
Lets just hit one point:
”They so far have created every war since history goes back just about. ”
Forget about the past for a moment. How do you see these guys created the war we are in now?
the war now.........You would be surprised as to what is going on in the background. We have no business promoting an independent Kosovo. We have no business supporting the Islamist from Bosnia to Kosovo and now will target Macedonia, North Mitrovica, and South Presevo.
The strategy of the NWO is clear, but not in a million years will this be clear to most as many are in a state of denial, arrogrance and unawareness.......For others that do understand, they can either sound off or just sit and wait and watch it all happen.
The past does indicate the future. The basic principle is the following. To build an empire, you must have a war; to find a war you must find an enemy; if you have no enemy then you must make one.
Hopper,
You are the laughing stock...funny thing is, you actually enjoy this. I can't figure if you are actually doing this as a hobby for the Offical line of brown stuff, or; you just get off on creating the friction and being the "fly" in the ointment...or is that oinkment....:)) Is your life that boring or wasteful that you need this kind of "childish" retortment to give you that "spirit" in life...how sad.
There is no task at hand. I can choose to answer if I want or chose to not answer as it would be a waste of time answering you. You offer nothing in return other than referring to a government site that is inaccurate anyway. that is it......you are either too lazy or fearful to do your own investigation and search for truth that you live in your own cess pool of ignorance......
See ya round like a donut.......:)
Just not for you, Tom.
I'll just keep this for future reference as yet another topic where you don't know your fourth point of contact from a hole in the ground and are unable to back up your assertions with any meaningful data or facts.
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