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To: tgambill
”The New World Order agenda is real and is in progress as we speak.”


Yes there are very powerful people trying to take over the world so to speak. There are also a lot of powerful people that do not want that to happen. If the new world order people had as much power as is claimed they would have taken over the world after WWII. These guys have power but they don’t have as much power as you think.

” I also discovered without a doubt that Pearl Harbor was in fact set up for the kill.”

Not a ‘set up’ but Roosevelt willingly allowed Peal Harbor to be hit hard, most likely to get the people to support the war.

There was also a rumor just before all the joint chief of staff where fired by Clinton that a Coup was in the works. The FDR story is interesting here is a lot more on it. Butler wasn’t a Fascist by any means. Be sure to read the comments, because there are two sides to this story. I believe Butler was on our side. The story you are telling is coming from people that where known to be communist at the time.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1199190/posts

82 posted on 10/09/2006 1:45:59 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

"These guys have power but they don’t have as much power as you think."

They so far have created every war since history goes back just about. Their strength is the secrecy and money control. They have been responsible for the JFK, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and a few others I won't mention due to a total lack of supporting evidence, but speculation based on knowing their strategy and final goal. They strive on conflict and will remove any peaceful solution to the conflict they have found or created.

You are correct, there are several steps that can be taken and are being taken to combat this group. There are active measures being taken as we write to combat this group. They use the CFR and Royal Institute of International Affairs (England), as their front. They have an agenda that spans laws, Banking, Military, oil companies, automobile Manufacturing, computers, Communication and Transportation, media, and Education nationwide. It's bigger than one can imagine. You are correct in that they can be dealt with, successfully? that remains to be seen.

Pearl Harbor was a way that the NWO propoents could use to justify entering the war in Europe to the American public. The globalist supported and financed Hitler early on got him rolling and now he was what I have coined, "The wind up toy". You wind it up and let it go thus creating the need for a war. They did just that, but using I.G. Farbin Chemical cartel to fund the Nazi movement. Without this financial backing the Nazi movement would not have survived. I.G. Farbin got their backing from Wall Street, and big business. Check out Henry Ford and General Motors....you will be a bit surprised.

I agree that Butler was in no way or means a facist. You must have misread my comments or I didn't write them clearly enough, but Butler was absolutely on our side. His integrity and patriotism was beyond reproach. You are correct. I believe that if you reread, I mention that if it weren't for him whistleblowing we would be a facist country with a dictatorship. They probably chose him due to his experience, his "perceived understanding" of how the wars were created, relative to his quotes about how

http://democracyrising.us/content/view/191/164/

General Butler: "Back in my day we had similar people. In Italy there was Benito Mussolini, who said: "Fascism . ..believes neither in the possibility or the utility of perpetual peace . . .War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy." As you may know, I was arrested and threatened with court-martial for criticizing Mussolini at the time. Later on, I stopped the bankers' putsch against Roosevelt.. See, some Wall Street big shots wanted to topple President Roosevelt and the New Deal. I was a life-long Republican, and they knew that I was a soldier's general, so they approached me and wanted me to lead an army of five hundred thousand veterans to overthrow the government. We'd do the whole thing from Civilian Conservation Corps camps, which were already set up. If I refused, they were going to get MacArthur. Well, I blew the whistle on them. I always sided with the underdog against the rich and powerful with their damnable wars, and I'd do it again.

I spent 33 years and 4 months in active service as a member of our country's most agile military force--the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from second lieutenant to Major General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. I suspected I was part of a racket all the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service."



quote: from another source....

"A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime.... A prominent executive of one of the largest corporations, told me point blank that he would be ready to take definite action to bring fascism into America if President Roosevelt continued his progressive policies. Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there. Propagandists for fascist groups try to dismiss the fascist scare. We should be aware of the symptoms. When industrialists ignore laws designed for social and economic progress they will seek recourse to a fascist state when the institutions of our government compel them to comply with the provisions."



84 posted on 10/09/2006 2:33:13 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

thank you..much. Good link and followups....this helps with my research.


85 posted on 10/09/2006 2:55:58 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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