Breaking: Senate overwhelmingly approves House Border Wall (per KFI radio)

KFI radio broadcast ^ | 9/29/06 | self

[conservative in nyc]

There are already fences at parts of the border. This one is on the beach in San Diego:



You're telling me this fence violates the treaty? I'm not following.

[TheLion]

Don't remember if you pinged this one....a long thread.

[ARealMothersSonForever]

it is stipulated that neither government will interpose any obstacle to the transit of persons and merchandise of both nations;

This also goes to the fact that passports are not required of USA and Mexican nationals. Mexico does not participate in the Visa Waiver Program. I think that is a bad thing, but it is how it is.

[2dogjoe]

Lieberman (D-CT) Nay

What happened to Lieberman?

[CindyDawg]

It doesn't look too sturdy.

[ARealMothersSonForever]

This one is on the beach in San Diego

Last that I checked, San Diego is not in Texas. Californians, Arizonians, and New Mexicans are screwed. Maybe Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York will cede some property to them. I wish the southern folks well on that endeavor. Because it is unlikely.

[Old_Mil]

Voting no on Border Security: Chafee (R-RI)

Remember in November.

[Paleo Conservative]

Last that I checked, San Diego is not in Texas.

Have you looked at a map of South Texas recently? There's a town in Duval County called "San Diego". It's the county seat of Duval County where Lyndon Johnson won the 1948 Texas Democratic primary due to ballots cast in ballot box 13.

[conservative in nyc]

it is stipulated that neither government will interpose any obstacle to the transit of persons and merchandise of both nations;

On the railroad. Not anywhere else along the border.

This also goes to the fact that passports are not required of USA and Mexican nationals.

No it doesn't. It says that US citizens transiting the railroad THROUGH Mexico to another country don't need a passport. It makes no mention of passport requirements for Mexican nationals visiting the U.S. or U.S. citizens taking the railroad to Mexico. Currently, Mexican nationals need a passport AND visa to visit the U.S. (or a border crossing card to cross into certain designated border zones to go shopping).

Your interpretation of the treaty flies in the face of current actual practice, which makes me believe it's not correct.

[NinoFan]

That guy is worse than most Dems. I can't wait until someone beats him in a primary and gets his butt out of Washington.

[gubamyster]

ping

[Tammy8]

I don't have a map, just read a description of where it was proposed to be built. From what I read most of it will be AZ, and CA. Roughly 90 miles here in NM to El Paso and East of El Paso through at least some of Hudspeth County, TX. I think possibly some around Laredo was also proposed but I believe I saw an article last week where officials said Laredo didn't want a fence. Not sure if certain proposed areas can opt out- that might be interesting.

[EternalVigilance]

I'm going to take this opportunity to offer praise for two men particularly, and a whole bunch of others generally:

Jim Gilchrist of the Minuteman Project, and Chris Simcox of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps have both taken the slings and arrows of the Left like real troupers, and deserve the thanks of all patriotic Americans for their service to this country.

Additionally, I'd like to personally thank every man and woman who has taken their own resources and stood vigil on the border.

The Minutemen have performed in the proud tradition of THE Minutemen, and I think they're awesome.

Now, none of this should be taken as any indication that I think this "war" is anywhere close to being over.

But the progress that has been made through citizen action is the most compelling example of self-government in our generation.

It is so good to see the politicos squirm...

[CindyDawg]

Did you see a thread about one of their helicopters crashing around Laredo tonight? I posted on it but can't find the thread or my post anymore.

[EternalVigilance]

No!

[CottonBall]

Jim Gilchrist of the Minuteman Project, and Chris Simcox of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps have both taken the slings and arrows of the Left like real troupers, and deserve the thanks of all patriotic Americans for their service to this country.

Additionally, I'd like to personally thank every man and woman who has taken their own resources and stood vigil on the border.

I'll 2nd that. If the MMP hadn't taken this one, we probably wouldn't even be talking about it today. And the Minutemen starting to build a section of fence, IMHO, brought the concept of a fence into the public's mind.

[EternalVigilance]

Yep. Their critics can kiss my....

I'll leave the rest to their imaginations...

[ruination]

Lieberman's been consistently against a fence during the past year, sadly.

[flaglady47]

I just posted this on another thread; it fits here too:

I'll tell you what, IMO, has taken place. A deal has been cut with the House/Senate and the White House. Bush will not veto this bill, as the deal is when Congress reconvenes, following the November elections, the Pubs, assuming they maintain control in the House and Senate, will then fashion a "temporary visitor's program" and pass the bill which Bush will, of course, then sign. They may even try to go for an amnesty measure, as no one at that point will have to worry about re-election for two years in the House, and only some in the Senate will have to worry. Thus, Bush will shortly get what he wants, and if the Dems win in the mid-term election, Bush will get ALL that he wants on immigration, as the Dems will stall funding or de-fund the 700 mile fence, will pass an amnesty bill, along with a guest worker bill, and will leave the floodgates on the border open (got to get more Dem voters, you know, legal or illegal). Either way, a win win for Bush, and he knows it. The truth of the matter.

[newzjunkey]

It's about time! How long as this taken? Good grief.