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Governor signs 'lemon' teacher legislation -- 503 bills to go
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/29/6 | Lynda Gledhill, Matthew Yi,

Posted on 09/29/2006 3:33:13 PM PDT by SmithL

ov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill Thursday to end the so-called dance of the lemons in which unsuccessful teachers move from one low-performing school to another and principals are powerless to stop it.

...Those bills were two of more than 100 pieces of legislation that Schwarzenegger acted on Thursday. The governor still has 503 bills that he needs to sign or veto before the Saturday midnight deadline.

SB1655 authored by Sen. Jack Scott, D-Altadena, will give school principals the flexibility to reject a voluntary transfer of a teacher and change hiring deadlines so that promising new teachers can be hired earlier.

Currently, principals must give teachers seeking a transfer first priority for any open positions, even if they are not performing well.

"Right now we have what we call the dance of the lemons," Schwarzenegger said at a bill signing ceremony at a Pasadena high school. "Teachers who are failing our students, or getting into trouble in one school, can voluntarily move to another school, and there the school principal has to accept them, even knowing that they're not good teachers."

The bill gives principals power to "say no to those teachers and only hire the best candidates," the Republican governor said.

SB1655 was opposed by the California Teachers Association and the California Federation of Teachers, two traditional Democratic allies.

Sandra Jackson, a spokeswoman for the California Teachers Association, said the bill "wrongly identifies teachers as the reason" the schools are failing.

"I don't think it is going to do anything to help students in those districts," she said. "It's the wrong answer to a complex problem."

Another Scott bill signed by Schwarzenegger, SB1209, is aimed at overcoming the challenge of losing 100,000 California teachers to retirement over the next decade.

Specifically, the bill makes it easier for out-of-state teachers...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: caleducation; callegislation; danceofthelemons; lemonlaw; sb1209; sb1655; unionthugs
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1 posted on 09/29/2006 3:33:15 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Maybe the kids are idiots... maybe the parents aren't committed to their child's education...

Even the best teacher in the world can't help the unmotivated.


2 posted on 09/29/2006 3:55:39 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: SmithL

Well, one lemon that was found in my school was fired for being found lying on a table with a young, male student.

There are only really two things that will get you into trouble in teaching: Finance and Romance.


3 posted on 09/29/2006 4:01:31 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Triggerhippie

The NEA would say that the problem is that it needs more money.


4 posted on 09/29/2006 4:02:03 PM PDT by teacherwoes (To a liberal diversity is finding different people who agree with them)
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To: SmithL

There is a fundamental problem with the concept of GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE UNIONS.

Unions are supposedly to represent the employees from an abusive and tyrannical employer. In the case of government employees, WE are the employer.

Even worse, the concept that these unions are allowed to contribute to the election of people who will subsequently vote on their pay levels, funding, retirement systems, etc.

The reasons our schools suck is simple;

Teachers Unions
+ Government Bureaucracy
-- - -- - - - --
= Total Failure


5 posted on 09/29/2006 4:03:46 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Triggerhippie

No, there are some REALLY bad teachers out there.

I have family and friends who work in California public schools. One is a librarian. She worked with one PE teacher who was so lazy that he would try to send his so called PE class to the library almost EVERY DAY so she would have to supervise them. He eventually ended up as part of a transfer deal in the District that is exactly like the one described. He had tenure, and basically got paid by the taxpayers for doing nothing.

I don't believe in tenure, and I come from a family of teachers.


6 posted on 09/29/2006 4:03:49 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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No, there are some REALLY bad teachers out there.

Absolutely. There are also parents out there who figure that their kid will learn what they need to know in school alone.

A woman I know, we'll call her Linda Z., looked shocked that my (now ex)wife and I got her son a book. "He doesn't know how to read," she said. We told her that she could read to him and that he could learn that way. Her response was, "he'll learn all that in school."

There are tons of moronic parents out there.

7 posted on 09/29/2006 4:15:01 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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SB1209, is aimed at overcoming the challenge of losing 100,000 California teachers to retirement over the next decade.

Factually correct but provides little indication of how this would be accomplished.

The bill's language reveals these remedies include lowering standards and accepting foreign credentials as long as the candidate is certificated in teaching English language learners. Three guesses as to where these out-of-state teachers currently call home.

Every time the page is turned and light shines upon the subject, this idiot Schwarzenegger has approved an expedient remedy that creates a leveling downward of educational standards at no savings to the taxpayer. Every time.

8 posted on 09/29/2006 4:17:26 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Triggerhippie

Sad, but accurate.

I volunteer at my children's school. You can tell at a very early age which kids have idiot parents.

It ticks me off, because I hate to see five year olds already behind the power curve.


9 posted on 09/29/2006 4:26:32 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: struggle
Image hosted by Photobucket.com used to be said the only sure way to lose in politics was to get caught in bed with a dead woman or a live man. not so sure even they apply now days...
10 posted on 09/29/2006 4:38:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Triggerhippie

"Maybe the kids are idiots... maybe the parents aren't committed to their child's education... "

??? So these teacher keeping bouncing from school to school, and only find the bad ones ?

Not likely ...


11 posted on 09/29/2006 5:20:22 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Amerigomag

"....and accepting foreign credentials as long as the candidate is certificated in teaching English language learners. "

Uh ... this IS a good thing - It won't help these kids if we don't have enough teachers, which means there is no chance of us getting rid of the bad ones.


Still think he "MUST be defeated" with Angeledies as the only candidate who could possibly beat him ?


12 posted on 09/29/2006 5:25:03 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
this IS a good thing - It won't help these kids if we don't have enough teachers

Hum? Sounds familiar.

Invite Mexico's poor to come and stay, on our dime, and import their old teachers under H-1B visas, again, on our dime. All in opposition to the proven theory of language immersion.

Yep, right out of a familiar play book.

Still think he "MUST be defeated"

Schwarzenegger is a cancer metastasizing in the CaGOP. Only two classes of people will vote for Scvhwarzenegger in November. The liberal and the gullible.

Both Schwarzenegger and Angelides need to be separated from the public trust and governance authority.

13 posted on 09/29/2006 5:45:27 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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Here's some more legislation from today's signings:

http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/4211

09/29/2006 GAAS:715:06 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger announced the signing of AB 2283 by Assemblymember Jenny Oropeza (D-Long Beach), requiring the Medical Board of California (MBC) to publish annual data on physicians' foreign language fluency, as well as race and ethnic backgrounds, by zip code.

"AB 2283 is the type of practical policy that is needed in order to begin comprehensive and future planning for the state," said Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. "I am proud to sign this bill that builds on efforts to ensure Californians, particularly non-English speakers, have access to physicians with whom they may share a culturally affinity or that are fluent in their language of choice."

AB 2283 addresses the increasingly diverse population of California that may be looking for specific data regarding healthcare practitioners. Specifically, this bill:

(snip)

http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/4192

09/29/2006 GAAS:714:06 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Legislative Update

Bills signed:

(snip)

AB 680 by Assemblymember Wilma Chan (D-Alameda) - English language learners.

---

From the bill (legislative counsel digest):

  AB 680, Chan  English language learners.
   Existing law provides that, when 15% or more of the pupils
enrolled in a public school speak a single primary language other
than English, all notices, reports, statements, or records sent to
the parent or guardian of any such pupil by the school or school
district shall, in addition to English, be written in the primary
language, and may be responded to either in English or the primary
language.
   This bill would require the State Department of Education to
monitor adherence to that requirement as part of its regular
monitoring and review of public schools and school districts, to make
certain related determinations, and to notify school districts of
certain related information by August 1 of each year. The bill would
require the department to make that notification using electronic
methods. The bill would require the department to use existing
resources to comply with those provisions.

14 posted on 09/30/2006 12:00:27 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Amerigomag
Three guesses as to where these out-of-state teachers currently call home.

Three syllables?

15 posted on 09/30/2006 12:11:48 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Oaxaca? Jalisco? Nayarit?


16 posted on 09/30/2006 12:35:01 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Mojave
Three syllables?

Oaxaca? Jalisco? Nayarit?

17 posted on 09/30/2006 12:35:38 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Not Canada?


18 posted on 09/30/2006 12:40:09 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

I didn't think of that. Were you initially inferring Mexico and Canada?


19 posted on 09/30/2006 12:49:38 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

¡No!


20 posted on 09/30/2006 1:21:01 AM PDT by Mojave
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