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FAA fines Victoria Osteen $3,000 (also being sued by a flight attendant claiming assault)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 9/29/06 | ARMANDO VILLAFRANCA

Posted on 09/29/2006 4:12:48 AM PDT by truthandlife

The Federal Aviation Administration has fined Victoria Osteen, wife of Lakewood pastor Joel Osteen, $3,000 after determining she had interfered with a Continental Airlines crew member aboard a flight late last year.

And this week, a flight attendant filed suit claiming she was assaulted by Victoria Osteen during that flight to Vail, Colo., for the Christmas holidays.

Osteen has paid the penalty, which is not an admission of guilt.

On the civil matter, Rusty Hardin, Osteen's attorney, called the lawsuit a "ridiculous" attempt to seek money from Osteen, whose husband is a best-selling author as well as the pastor of the largest church in Houston.

In February, the agency notified Osteen that officials were planning to fine her $5,000 for the Dec. 19, 2005, incident, according to a letter the FAA sent to Osteen. The agency reduced the fine, which Osteen paid last month.

Aboard the plane, according to the letter, Osteen asked flight attendant Verssie Ray for napkins to clean a liquid on the armrest of her first-class seat. When Ray returned with the napkins, Osteen told Ray she should clean the armrest because it was her job to do so, according to the findings of the FAA investigation.

After Ray told Osteen she would get another flight attendant, Osteen left her seat and asked flight attendant Maria Johnson to clean the seat.

"You (Osteen) grabbed FA Johnson's right forearm and led her to your seat," the FAA report stated.

Johnson told Osteen she would get aircraft-cleaning personnel to take care of the liquid stain and headed for the cockpit. Osteen followed Johnson toward the front of the airplane where she encountered flight attendant Sharon Brown and asked to speak to someone in authority.

"You (Osteen) then tried to get past FA (Sharon) Brown by pushing her out of the way and elbowing her in the left breast," the FAA report stated.

"Both FAs told you (Osteen) that you could not go into the cockpit. You (Osteen) then grabbed the arm of FA Johnson who had just exited the cockpit, said then come here and pulled her into the galley stating that you had enough of FA Brown."

Johnson and Brown then asked to have Osteen to be removed from the plane, but she and her family left voluntarily.

Claims filed in civil suit In her civil suit, Brown, a flight manager aboard Continental Flight 1602, stated she was pushed and elbowed in the chest by Osteen, who had walked up to the cockpit demanding "to speak with someone of authority."

The lawsuit, filed Monday, is seeking unspecified damages.

Hardin said Osteen did not assault Brown.

"Victoria Osteen never assaulted her, absolutely never assaulted her," Hardin said.

"This flight attendant just flipped out. I can't answer why, the only thing I can say is that Victoria Osteen is the last person in the world who would assault someone.

"This is an absolutely ridiculous lawsuit that never should have been filed."

Hardin and Lakewood Church said Osteen would not comment about the lawsuit or the allegation.

Reginald McKamie, Brown's attorney, said his client and flight attendant Maria Johnson filed complaints with the FAA.

He said several statements were filed supporting Brown's claim that she was assaulted by Osteen, including Johnson, who he said witnessed the assault. McKamie said Brown decided to pursue the lawsuit because Osteen still claims that they exchanged words because of a misunderstanding and that no assault took place.

"Victoria Osteen sent a letter out to her congregation saying she acted in a Christianlike manner. We're going to let a jury of 12 people from Harris County decide whether she acted in a Christianlike manner," McKamie said.

'Verbal misunderstanding' Hardin said Osteen paid the fine to put the issue to rest and because she believes "very, very strongly" that she did nothing wrong.

"It's unfortunate that the flight attendant thought it necessary to file a lawsuit over a verbal misunderstanding. It was never assault," Hardin said. "She would never had paid the fine if the finding had a finding of an assault."

Don Iloff, brother of Victoria Osteen and spokesman for Lakewood Church, however, cited errors in the report, namely that the plane departed from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport.

Hardin said another attorney representing Brown had contacted him stating that his client wanted an apology from Osteen. Hardin said he never heard from the attorney again or anything related to the incident until the lawsuit was filed.

The lawsuit stated Brown sustained bruising and other pain as a result of the encounter. Brown is seeking compensation for past and future medical care, emotional pain, suffering, mental anguish and humiliation.


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To: L,TOWM

Really. They should have been walking, in sandals.


81 posted on 09/29/2006 7:58:32 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: truthandlife

Here's one of our threads from when it happened last year:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545925/posts


82 posted on 09/29/2006 8:08:57 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: rawhide

I guess I support Hamas, who knew?


83 posted on 09/29/2006 8:10:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mariabush

I remember hearing on the local news that it wasn't on her seat or even on the armrest - that it was on her tray table.

The first stew was going forward to the captain with some paperwork and just told Victoria she couldn't do it right that second, but would get someone to help her. It went from there.


84 posted on 09/29/2006 8:11:08 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: L,TOWM

It was to Vail for a ski trip during the Christmas holidays - he takes two weeks off then, since it's such a slow period at the office. /s to the word slow


85 posted on 09/29/2006 8:18:28 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66
Spoiled brat microwave society that we live in today!!!!
86 posted on 09/29/2006 8:23:41 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: mariabush

No time 2 ansr U


87 posted on 09/29/2006 8:28:52 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Paul_B

I come from a church where the senior pastor would not drink a glass of wine with his dinner at an Italian resturant because he figured that if some one saw him drink one glass of wine, that would eventually turn into "Pastor ___ is a drunk". Recognition of the bullseye a Christian Leader wears and the self-control to adjust one's behavior accordingly should be 2nd nature to a high profile pastor. It certainly was to a pastor of a smaller church (2500 people) that was well known in the beach communities (Redondo, Hermosa) of LA, but not nationally.

As others (and I agree with them) have pointed out, the whole spectacle was poor witness. And a lot of ministers would "get that". A lot of ministers would also be humble enough to wipe up any "moisture" in their own personal space without making a big deal of it, too.

Coach, aka "Economy", seems to work well for a lot of people. If some one is rich enough to flush their $$$ down the john on 1st class tickets that is simple freedom to be stupid. For a pastor a different standard applies and first class tickets for a luxury vacation passes straight from unbecoming stupidity into unseemply worldliness.

And that's not even taking into account what Mrs. Osteen may or may not have said or done -- once this situation started to escalate, was their any possibility that the media would not blame the "christian minister and his family" for the conduct?


88 posted on 09/29/2006 9:09:52 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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I'd hit it.

ha ha...
89 posted on 09/29/2006 9:14:23 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Oilfield

"The only church to not allow any of the Katrina victims through the doors was the Lakewood church."

Where did you get that info.? I'm not disputing it just curious.


90 posted on 09/29/2006 9:17:27 AM PDT by half-cajun
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To: truthandlife

Joel Osteen is such a stupid phony, so I am enjoying watching the travails of airhead trophy wife #1.


91 posted on 09/29/2006 9:47:28 AM PDT by montag813
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To: topcat54; Frumanchu; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; irishtenor

Isn't That Special

92 posted on 09/29/2006 9:58:22 AM PDT by Gamecock (The GRPL: Because life is too short for bad Theology*)
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To: subterfuge

Christians shouldn't be held accountable when they act like spoiled brats?


93 posted on 09/29/2006 10:00:57 AM PDT by Gamecock (The GRPL: Because life is too short for bad Theology*)
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To: 100-Fold_Return

If Mrs. Osteen had remembered that we are all servants of the Lord she would have wiped the liquid up herself and thanked the stewardess for bringing her a napkin to do it with.


94 posted on 09/29/2006 10:04:03 AM PDT by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: L,TOWM

People who travel the amount of miles they do each year receive automatic upgrades to First Class from the airline. The Osteens travel extensively for speaking engagements.


95 posted on 09/29/2006 10:32:14 AM PDT by Mother of the Bride
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To: Oilfield

This is a bald-faced lie. I saw Joel being interviewed by one of the major networks during the hurricane aftermath about all of the support Lakewood Church was giving to the hurricane victims - and it was very substantial!!! Instead of wondering, why don't you just go and find out.


96 posted on 09/29/2006 10:39:31 AM PDT by Mother of the Bride
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To: finnigan2
Why should paying passengers be expected to service the aircraft?

ROFLMAO...are you serious? It was a little spill on the armrest for crap's sake. Nobody asked her to load baggage. Or hand out stale pretzels. (:^*)

97 posted on 09/29/2006 10:41:43 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: L,TOWM

Maybe, but Jesus Himself was called a drunkard. He didn't seem to let people's opinions stop Him from living, including both drinking and making wine. This whole thing is unfortunate, but we really don't know how it went down. Lots of opinions, lots of eagerness to judge, not a lot of anything of worth.


98 posted on 09/29/2006 10:46:30 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: truthandlife

Cat fight


99 posted on 09/29/2006 10:57:12 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Mother of the Bride

So who does the Christmas sermon at Lakewood while the Senior Pastor is off skiing at Vail? Does Osteen go to Hawaii or maybe the Carribean for "Spring Break" (Easter to those of you in Rio Linda), too?

The pastors at every church I have gone to on a regular basis did'nt worry about "traveling extensively for speaking engangements". They had important speaking engagements every Sunday in their pulpits.


100 posted on 09/29/2006 11:01:46 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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