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All You Need Is Ubuntu (Says Bill Clinton)
BBC ^ | 9-28-2006 | Sean Coughlan

Posted on 09/28/2006 1:44:07 PM PDT by blam

All you need is ubuntu

You and me, me and you, lots and lots, for us to do

By Sean Coughlan
BBC News Magazine

Bill Clinton told the Labour conference to get into ubuntu. Eh? Ubuntu. That was what Bill Clinton told the Labour party conference it needed to remember this week. "Society is important because of Ubuntu."

But what is it? Left-leaning sudoku? U2's latest album? Fish-friendly sushi?

No, it's a word describing an African worldview, which translates as "I am because you are," and which means that individuals need other people to be fulfilled.

The former president, husky-voiced and down-home with the delegates, gave it a folksy flavour, describing it in terms of needing to be around others to enjoy being ourselves.

"If we were the most beautiful, the most intelligent, the most wealthy, the most powerful person - and then found all of a sudden that we were alone on the planet, it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans," said Mr Clinton.

The word comes from the Bantu languages spoken in southern Africa - and is related to a Zulu concept - "umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu" - which means that a person is only a person through their relationship to others.

And it's entered the political lexicon through the political changes in South Africa.

Archbishop Desmond Tutu, in his book No Future Without Forgiveness, says: "Ubuntu is very difficult to render into a Western language... It is to say, 'My humanity is caught up, is inextricably bound up, in what is yours.'"

Decline

In his definition, it means that there is a common bond between people - and when one person's circumstances improve, everyone gains and if one person is tortured or oppressed, everyone is diminished.

Ubuntu chic - thong name-checking Ubuntu open-source software

Mr Tutu's identification with ubuntu has given rise to the idea of "ubuntu theology" - where ethical responsibility comes with a shared identity. If someone is hungry, the ubuntu response is that we're all collectively responsible.

There is a spiritual as well as practical dimension to this - with ubuntu reflecting the idea that we're part of a long chain of human experience, connecting us to previous and future generations.

Ubuntu has also entered the language of development and fair trade - with campaigners using the word in aid projects for Africa in ways that suggest this will be an African solution for African problems.

Ironically, says Rob Cunningham, Christian Aid's programme manager for South Africa, just as the word is taking off in Western society the values it embodies are in decline in the land of its origin.

"In my conversations with partner organisations and the communities they work with, and among older people, there's a deep sense of loss of ubuntu," says Mr Cunningham. "To me, it means sitting down in a Zulu hut in KwaZulu-Natal sharing scarce food and a brew and a few stories."

There are ubuntu education funds, ubuntu tents at development conferences, ubuntu villages, an ubuntu university - and it's now the name of an open-source operating system.

Expect to hear more from ubuntu in the future.

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Ubuntu is an excellent traditional as well as modern Africa worldview. The concept has a powerful meaning and potential to transform the world into one of better understanding and respect for every human being - it is about treating others as we would to be treated. It is about a sense of sharing, belong and togetherness including the fact that no human being is an island. Thanks Bill for the timely advice to Labour and the world. Dr. Kennedy Lweya, Haywards Heath

No man is an Island and a tree cannot make a forest so the saying goes in Bini, Edo state of Nigeria. I strongly agree with former President Clinton in the use of the word Ubuntu. Let us be our brothers' keeper. The fortunate should lend a helping hand to the unfortunate. Unity is strength. Omorodion Osula, Boston, USA

The essence and depth of 'ubuntu' as a concept lies in the age-long African philosophy and practice of communalism and shared objectives. You are your neighbours' keeper. With the emergence of 'western civilization' we are increasingly becoming individualistic and competitive. Capitalism and the philosophy of every person for himself is a challenge for ubuntu. We are all extricably linked and if you buy into the philosophy of ubuntu then I have your back and you have mine. I am because you are - togetherness is it. Lawrence Mba, Toronto, Canada

"Umuntu" is a concept that the west struggles to grasp. People in the West are so individualistic, whereas in Africa its all about community.In Africa you cannot seperate yourself from your community. For example, I am from Highfield, Harare Zimbabwe, and I grew up knowing about 95% of my neighbors, all the way up to six streets down. I am now a student in the USA and I hardly know the people that stay next door. Muchengetwa Bgoni, Missouri, USA

Ubuntu is at the heart of the South African truth and reconciliation process. The term Ubuntu, according to Tutu, has perhaps its equivalent in Western world: ¿I think therefore I am.¿ The Ubuntu version of this same concept would be translated as ¿I am human because I belong. I participate, I share.¿ Ubuntu embraces the worst in the other with the awareness that I would have done the same evil if I were in their shoes. It comes from the grim realisation that in as much as people are capable of doing good, there is always a danger of an evil force that works at various levels possessing people and making them do things that they would not normally do. Dawit Yehualashet, Ethiopian in Goshen, IN, USA

Wasn't it his wife who said, also from an African proverb, "It takes a village to raise a child"? Maybe it all depends how you define Ubuntu! Anthony J. Ipie, La Paz

I prefer Thatcher's folksy speech. 'There is no such thing as society.' I wonder if Clinton referenced ubuntu to Hillary after his heavy dose of it whilst president. Dylan, London

Bill Clinton says get into Ubuntu, just a second I've CD with it on in my bag. Yup here it is "Ubuntu - linux for human beings". Bill Gates ain't going to like this. Simon Monday, Godalming


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To: maggief

Well NOW I see why Bubba want Ubuntu. Three Monicas in a circle.


101 posted on 09/28/2006 2:25:45 PM PDT by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: blam
Mr Tutu's identification with ubuntu has given rise to the idea of "ubuntu theology" - where ethical responsibility comes with a shared identity. If someone is hungry, the ubuntu response is that we're all collectively responsible.

Great! Just calling "collectivism" by its own name doesn't sell well anymore. "Economic Democracy" and now "Ubuntu" to the rescue!

102 posted on 09/28/2006 2:27:54 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
"People who need people . . . Are the luckiest people in the world"

I'm not quite sure what your point is, but if it's what I think it is, it is that this idea of people needing other people to be fulfilled is hardly a new concept and is hardly unknown to Western civilization. It is a central concept in the Bible, not to mention popular culture. For Clinton to dredge up an African term for this concept is simply pandering. I can't believe that more people don't see through this guy.
103 posted on 09/28/2006 2:30:11 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

People who need People, old Barbra Streisand song.


104 posted on 09/28/2006 2:31:09 PM PDT by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

Geeze!

Im running Ubuntu on 3 of my machines.

Now everytime im using it I will fell like im Monica!


105 posted on 09/28/2006 2:31:55 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Fitzmas Has Been Canceled.)
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To: buffyt

I know it's a Streisand song from the 60s, but I wasn't sure why HC posted it - my take on it is in my previous post.


106 posted on 09/28/2006 2:33:43 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: VanDeKoik

fell = feel
sudo Doh!


107 posted on 09/28/2006 2:34:12 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Fitzmas Has Been Canceled.)
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To: aShepard
"What an unctuous smarmy asshole!"

My thoughts exactly.

108 posted on 09/28/2006 2:36:24 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: My2Cents
which translates as "I am because you are," Old African term, or simply new age psychobabble?

. . .An African resonance of sorts to the old question. . .'if a tree falls in the forest; and there is no one there to hear it. . .does it make a sound?'

Beyond that; for Clinton to engage African wisdom/homilies is total BS; and there are plenty around who hear it as well as recognize it when they see it.

The man is an insufferable fraud(!). Plain and simple. . .

109 posted on 09/28/2006 2:44:41 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Wow - a master politician and a Linux Geek all in one.

If you mentioned flex and bison to Clinton, he'd think you were talking about playing Crisco Twister with Madeline Albright.
110 posted on 09/28/2006 2:46:56 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: blam

"umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu"

Well, you can't argue with logic like that!

(Does a "tu" make a grunt or a click?")


111 posted on 09/28/2006 2:49:44 PM PDT by guppas (Kick their ass -- Take their gas!)
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To: blam
"Ubuntu." Unusual word coming from the lips of Slippery Willie. A word containing "u,u,u" and nary an "I" , which Slick is so extremely partial to.

Will ubuntu, surpass the repetition of gravitas in liberal Democrat's limited vocabulary during this election season? Probably.
112 posted on 09/28/2006 2:51:55 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Osama ain't dead, he has always smelled like a liberal Democrat's feet.)
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To: blam

Ubuntu because Nigerian Bank Managers need love too.


113 posted on 09/28/2006 2:52:40 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese, that why I don't sing.)
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To: SpaceBar
he'd think you were talking about playing Crisco Twister with Madeline Albright.

Now there's a mental image I didn't need.

114 posted on 09/28/2006 2:52:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: blam

"umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu" bump


115 posted on 09/28/2006 2:58:11 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: blam
The word comes from the Bantu languages

Just for the heck of it, I ran ubuntu thru google language tools to be translated from Arabic to English. It came back as "clearly expressed".

116 posted on 09/28/2006 2:58:28 PM PDT by DejaJude (Admiral Clark said, "Our mantra today is life, liberty and the pursuit of those who threaten it!")
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To: blam

"individuals need other people to be fulfilled."

Sounds like a true narcissist, who craves for the adoration of others.


117 posted on 09/28/2006 3:03:40 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: blam

For Democrats retirement is just another primary. Retired Democrat politicians hang out in New York or Martha's Vinyard try to hustle wealthy liberal patrons with some fashionable line or another. It keeps them in the spotlight and gets them plenty of invitations, but it has little to do with how they actually governed when they were in office.


118 posted on 09/28/2006 3:05:44 PM PDT by x
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To: TChris
A society based on codependency.

Brilliant!

119 posted on 09/28/2006 3:13:43 PM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: blam
which translates as "I am because you are," and which means that individuals need other people to be fulfilled.

So we're back to the village, are we?

120 posted on 09/28/2006 3:15:13 PM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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