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Boy says he was mistreated by officers
http://www.newsobserver.com/145/story/491516.html ^ | Sept. 27

Posted on 09/28/2006 11:29:43 AM PDT by CondorFlight

DURHAM - Police have launched an internal investigation into allegations that a 13-year-old boy was wrestled to the ground, handcuffed and pepper-sprayed Monday, though he had done nothing wrong...

The officers took him to Duke Hospital for treatment of cuts and other minor injuries, where he was left for several hours without his parents being contacted, Lowery said.

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To: radar101

That's right..ALL cops are perfect (except those in Ramparts (sp) in California and those doing hits for the mob in New York and the ones with the water hoses and the sheriff candidate in Georgia recently who killed his opponent......I had a roommate in college who was a cop and another on the force gave me grief when he saw me because he didn't like my roommate....)....

You must be a cop or homebound..cops do bad things.....


21 posted on 09/28/2006 12:46:23 PM PDT by Ecliptic (Keep looking to the sky)
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To: Just another Joe

We need more information.

Some people side with the police because, "They wouldn't do anything like this without a good reason."

Others will side with the kid because, "The police are a law unto themselves."

Again, we need more information.


22 posted on 09/28/2006 12:51:52 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: preacher

In light of lack of information, the suspect is considered innocent till proven guilty.


23 posted on 09/28/2006 12:54:59 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
In light of lack of information, the suspect is considered innocent till proven guilty.

As is the cop.

24 posted on 09/28/2006 12:57:31 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: nevergore

Yup. Here's the deal: I can't figure out why a cop would put a choke hold on some woman outside her house just because she called 911 over a domestic dispute. She was just standing there, explaining things to the cop who showed up, so he choked her out? I don't think so.

There's more to the story, I'm thinking, hence my "Cops" reference.


25 posted on 09/28/2006 12:58:37 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: rogue yam
As is the cop.

That's correct.

26 posted on 09/28/2006 1:02:00 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: MineralMan
I can't figure out why a cop would put a choke hold on some woman outside her house just because she called 911 over a domestic dispute.

What you are doing here, MM, is failing to "beware the statistics of small samples". If you had a thousand randomly-selected women who had called 911 over a domestic dispute and someone claimed that the cops acted wrongly in most or all of those cases then it would make much more sense to react as you did than in the present instance where you have a single, self-selected individual relating their own experiences. Ask yourself the question "If they made the call and the cop acted correctly, would they be more or less likely to describe their experience on this thread than if the cops had behaved wrongly", etc. The bottom line here is that you are calling a fellow FReeper a liar (and doing so in a mocking, belittling way, despite the poster's claim that she was traumatized by the incident), and you are doing so based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever. That sucks big time, dude!

27 posted on 09/28/2006 1:34:07 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: AppyPappy
Uuuuhh....yeah. He was just walking down the street and BAM. I can barely get down the sidewalk myself before 6-7 cops are throwing themselves on me.

I have a nephew who as a teenager was savagely beaten by police -- twice. He committed no crime. He just has a sharp tongue. He was even chased from his yard into his house and his sleeping parents' bedroom.

If it had been an different brother of mine who had awakened with a shadowy figure in his bedroom doorway and his son crying out, "Stop them! Stop them!" he might have had a couple holes in his chest within seconds.

28 posted on 09/28/2006 1:38:21 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: CondorFlight

29 posted on 09/28/2006 1:41:05 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Is that the AV, maggief?


30 posted on 09/28/2006 1:45:20 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Jim R really needs to add 'mooselimb' and 'blog' to the spellchecker! and 'spellchecker', too! ;>)
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To: rogue yam

I called nobody a liar. I merely suggested that there may have been more to the story than was told. Did I do it in a mocking way? I did.


31 posted on 09/28/2006 1:48:30 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: maggief

Looks like he needs to take lessons from Chris Rock...


32 posted on 09/28/2006 1:48:47 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Jim R really needs to add 'mooselimb' and 'blog' to the spellchecker! and 'spellchecker', too! ;>)
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To: MineralMan

It wouldn't be the first time that a cop went after the victim instead of the perp. Could have been a bad cop who beats his own wife, or there might have been some reason for the mistake, like the drunken husband call police claiming somebody was trying to break into the house. It's pretty rude to address your no-evidence conclusions about something like that to the person who's relating the story as one in which she was the victim.


33 posted on 09/28/2006 2:02:26 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: MineralMan
She was just standing there, explaining things to the cop who showed up, so he choked her out? I don't think so.

I called nobody a liar.

Dude! You called her a liar.

34 posted on 09/28/2006 3:11:57 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: MineralMan

Oh please. If it had been publicized I would have died of shame.


35 posted on 09/28/2006 5:38:17 PM PDT by bluejean gal
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To: MineralMan

I understand your disbelief. I was in shock myself. I come from a cop family! Things like this just don't happen to me.
When my husband sobered up, he was appalled too, it was so "out there". But it happened.
I didn't call 911 either, i just called a regular number. It wasn't an emergency.
Anyway, it took all the guts i had just to tell this, so I will leave it at that. My stomach hurt all afternoon just from posting it. Maybe i shouldn't have, but it just seemed the time.


36 posted on 09/28/2006 5:46:05 PM PDT by bluejean gal
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To: rogue yam

It's ok, I understand better than anyone that it's just unbelievable. Don't you think i knew taht, as i was in the choke hold? I still remember the looks on the workman's faces in the parking lot next door. Their mouths were hanging open, i was so scared and ashamed. He was telling me to get down and i could not get down. duh. he had me by the neck.
I don't care what he thinks, really, i mean it doesn't affect me. I wish it had NOT happened, i'd rather be a liar than have these memories.
I thought he was joking at first anyway. I didn't know he was serious at first.
Drop it, please. I have to, i can't dwell on it anymore. I just thought i could get it out here, sort of anonymously. Guess not.


37 posted on 09/28/2006 5:52:14 PM PDT by bluejean gal
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To: bluejean gal

I'm sorry about my inference that there was more to this than you said.


38 posted on 09/29/2006 6:48:11 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: bluejean gal; ansel12
The cop who came was POed at having to come out on a domestic, he grabbed ME in a chokehold.
My brother went to the 7/11 down the street, cops swooped in, took him to the station ...

There's a bit of an information gap in both your tales.
39 posted on 09/29/2006 6:56:13 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

That was a silly post, and you made it to two different individuals at the same time.


40 posted on 09/29/2006 7:00:39 AM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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