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SWAT team practices law enforcement with a bang
Washington Evening Journal (WA State) ^ | 9/27/06 | David Hotle

Posted on 09/28/2006 9:33:58 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

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1 posted on 09/28/2006 9:34:00 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

I'm impressed. Look how effective a SWAT team was during the Columbine school massacre!


2 posted on 09/28/2006 9:34:42 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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"It is more fun than anything," Wagner said. "I was laughing the last time they were coming through the door."


Armed and truly freakin dangerous. This s**t turns my stomach.

These morons think its a joke. "We're big, we're bad, and the fedgov says we can bust down your door and shoot you any time we like, and what's best? You gotta TAKE IT!!"

These people belong in jail.


3 posted on 09/28/2006 9:39:59 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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When you have cowards on SWAT teams you get guys who freeze up and won't go in or you get innocent people shot as the cops shoot everything that might possibly be alive.


4 posted on 09/28/2006 9:40:55 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: kiriath_jearim

We are here to collect on your parking tickets!

5 posted on 09/28/2006 9:45:17 AM PDT by glorgau
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Several members of the local swat team are no longer welcome at the local range because they lack basic safety skills. Sweeping the president of the club with the muzzle of a machine pistol, trigger on the finger, kinda had something to do with that.


6 posted on 09/28/2006 9:45:28 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Al Gator

well said


7 posted on 09/28/2006 9:45:38 AM PDT by desertlily
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To: kiriath_jearim

As I watched one of the pressers yesterday from Colorado, I found myself getting all verklempt over the black uniforms. I remember being taught that the policeman was my friend, taught our kids that (well, until circumstances revised our thinking).

I don't object to SWAT teams, I just want to know where the division is between being a cop and being military. The line is getting hard to find.Cops in ninja gear scare me. I guess if they show up in black, that means there's gonna be lots of bang bang going on? And when the local boys in brown show up, it's just to talk?


8 posted on 09/28/2006 9:46:55 AM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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I understand the need for police agencies to have people trained in entries like this, I really do. But jeez, it seems to be getting to the point where every warrant now is being served by twenty guys in body armor piling out of something that looks like an old Soviet BTR-60. Is there really this much of an epidemic of the overuse of SWAT teams, or are they just being glamorized everywhere by reality TV?

}:-)4


9 posted on 09/28/2006 9:47:40 AM PDT by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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Well, you know that if the city (county, whoever) gets the $$$ for their SWAT team, they just can't sit around and never use it. Consequences be d******.


10 posted on 09/28/2006 9:55:52 AM PDT by Fudd
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In part its motivated by the desire for cops to further
their careers. SWAT is elite, therefore its desireable
for your resume.

Of course once they have the training and the gear, they
want to use it as often as possible.


11 posted on 09/28/2006 9:55:55 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: glorgau; sionnsar

They are SWAT teams in Washington, remember our 2004 stolen gubernatorial election? They are arriving to help make sure you fill out your all mail ballot for dims.


12 posted on 09/28/2006 9:58:16 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: kiriath_jearim; sit-rep; Squantos; elkfersupper

Oh, goody.

Wouldn't bother me quite as much if only the larger cities maintained one, and then only to be used on jihadists and such, not folks with unpaid parking tickets or smoking citations.


13 posted on 09/28/2006 10:01:38 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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"It is more fun than anything," Wagner said. "I was laughing the last time they were coming through the door."

Yeah, it's always fun, until some innocent is killed, jerk. How much training are they doing to prevent the kind of errors that cause that, hmmm?

Now that they've got their own tactical unit, how long before they make their first wrong entry? In the People's Republik of Washington, that's going to be an expensive mistake.

14 posted on 09/28/2006 10:04:29 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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I've seen them come into the store, and strike a threatening pose when they pass a security mirror. People who live to appear threatening have no place in our society. Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
15 posted on 09/28/2006 10:06:21 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: kiriath_jearim

And this isn't WA state. There is no city of Washington in Washington state. I believe this is Iowa, so you may want to ask the moderators to change that.


16 posted on 09/28/2006 10:11:32 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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>"I'm impressed. Look how effective a SWAT team was during the Columbine school massacre!"

You think that's impressive, wait till ya see how they do it in Texas while Dims are in charge!

17 posted on 09/28/2006 10:21:18 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Never hurl the letter Q into a privet bush)
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To: Fudd

Sorta like the FBI version of SWAT, the HRT (Hostage rescue team)and their record number of hostages rescued.... zero.


18 posted on 09/28/2006 10:28:24 AM PDT by Colorado Mike (Lord, help me be the Conservative my enemies think I am.)
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To: Valpal1

Yeah, it's Washington, Iowa, as you can see if you go to the front page of the paper.

Like it or not, SWAT teams are needed in today's world. They put their lives on the line every time they do a dynamic entry into a building. Some people here may have trouble recognizing that, but if you need them, you will be glad to see them coming through the door to rescue you. Sure, they make mistakes now and then, like all human beings. Those mistakes are well publicized and used to train other teams so they don't do the same thing.


19 posted on 09/28/2006 10:30:48 AM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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Is there really this much of an epidemic of the overuse of SWAT teams,

We had a case here in southwestern Ohio, five years ago, where a sheriff's SWAT team broke into a house on the basis of a tip from a "confidential informant" that a drug dealer lived there. Shot the dog, broke in both front and back doors, shot one of the occupants as he was coming down the stairs. The official story was that he looked like he had a gun. His family says he was carrying a coffee cup.

It turned out that the SWAT team was inadequately trained. It was disbanded after the raid. However, nothing ever happened to the creeps on the team. The county settled out of court for some undisclosed but large sum. The family is still unhappy. They wanted it to go to court, but couldn't afford it.

If someone broke down my door I think I'd be justified in bringing a gun to the party. But I'd look carefully before I came down the stairs.

20 posted on 09/28/2006 10:34:06 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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