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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: Sensei Ern

LOL!

I'm REAL!

;-)

hot blooded and hot headed REAL!

;-)


541 posted on 09/28/2006 11:53:00 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: hattend

DEATH TO THE MOOK!


542 posted on 09/28/2006 11:53:21 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: MaestroLC
This caller is a moron. They HATE us!!!! Why should we get along with them?

He's a perfect example of the liberals' childlike naivete. He just can't comprehend that they can hate us purely because their religion tells them to, or because they feel inferior, or because they're secretly envious of our freedom and prosperity. He thinks it just has to be our fault somehow.

543 posted on 09/28/2006 11:53:21 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: eeevil conservative

Makes them easier to spot!


544 posted on 09/28/2006 11:53:21 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: RasterMaster

LOL!


545 posted on 09/28/2006 11:53:40 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: eeevil conservative

I am always here to rub you :-)


546 posted on 09/28/2006 11:53:51 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie

*THUD*


547 posted on 09/28/2006 11:54:12 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: eeevil conservative
My knee is still killing me but the swelling is going down, when is your debut again?
548 posted on 09/28/2006 11:54:16 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

October 7.


549 posted on 09/28/2006 11:54:53 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: rodguy911

I am so sorry you are in pain....

truly...

- next Saturday....

so hope your knee gets better...


550 posted on 09/28/2006 11:55:08 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: Sensei Ern

LOL!

WOW!

You're quick!
;-)


551 posted on 09/28/2006 11:55:31 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: TexasPatriot8

You got that right. It will be interesting to see how the screaming economy, low gas price and soaring DOW gets becomes irrelevant to the Dem campaign. So the WOT will be the clincher then? Considering the standard Dem cut and run position, maybe they are really are falling in to the dreaded Rovian trap...


552 posted on 09/28/2006 11:55:43 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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I'M SICK OF THIS AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!!

okay, stress released for today.


553 posted on 09/28/2006 11:55:43 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (If you speak against your own, you have chosen the wrong side.)
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To: eeevil conservative

thanks,you will do great.


554 posted on 09/28/2006 11:56:22 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: MNJohnnie
Rush periodically "blowing off steam" (like Clinton did on FoxNews) is hilarious!
555 posted on 09/28/2006 11:56:31 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( May Byron Nelson ............ rest in peace.)
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To: Kerretarded

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5184957822303751144&q=bad+day


556 posted on 09/28/2006 11:56:33 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: rodguy911

thank you... get butterflies when I think about it...LOL!


557 posted on 09/28/2006 11:56:57 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: eeevil conservative

I am anticipating your debut almost as much as you are.


558 posted on 09/28/2006 11:57:00 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: RasterMaster

ROFLL!!!


559 posted on 09/28/2006 11:58:04 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: RasterMaster

ROTFLMAO--obviously voted for kerry.


560 posted on 09/28/2006 11:58:07 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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