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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: MarkLevinFan

Hakuna Macacca!

501 posted on 09/28/2006 11:43:42 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: American Quilter
Who uses a keyboard?? I inject coulombs straight into the wires.
502 posted on 09/28/2006 11:44:00 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: Clint N. Suhks

A bout the same. BUt, Laurel is consistantly 20 cents less. I found out it is because the populated areas require special additives to make it more environmentally friendly...which might explain why my bike has been having engine problems since my last tank full.


503 posted on 09/28/2006 11:44:20 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: Roccus

...Your not trying to sell off that bridge in Brooklyn again, are you?


504 posted on 09/28/2006 11:45:30 AM PDT by aligncare (Republicans think democrats are wrong; democrats think republicans are evil.)
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To: Sensei Ern

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505 posted on 09/28/2006 11:45:31 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: Sensei Ern

George is wrong!


506 posted on 09/28/2006 11:45:32 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: rush

In World War two we had a fixed foe in a known geographical location. We have no such luxury this time. Counter Insurgency is not Total War. Learn the difference.


507 posted on 09/28/2006 11:45:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Seminar moonbat.
508 posted on 09/28/2006 11:45:49 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: eeevil conservative

How'd that work for ya?


509 posted on 09/28/2006 11:45:56 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: Roccus
Who uses a keyboard?? I inject coulombs straight into the wires.

(gasp) oooooooooh! aaaaaaaaaah! I feel so backward...

510 posted on 09/28/2006 11:45:57 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: Sensei Ern

RE--the current caller: That's the root of our problem to begin with: we're too afraid of "alienating" people so we go about this war with tentative half-measures.


511 posted on 09/28/2006 11:46:10 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: MNJohnnie

Rush0

The Muslims are ALWAYS MAD!!!!


512 posted on 09/28/2006 11:46:12 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: Sensei Ern
By dialogue the caller means LECTURE.

By alienate the caller means SURRENDER.

513 posted on 09/28/2006 11:46:23 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: All

What a moron. "The moderate Islams". Moderate Muslims George you dipwad! Islam is the religion Muslims are the followers of it. This guy is such a dork! Anyone who thinks that us going to Iraq and Afghanistan and fighting the terrorists, engaging them over there, after the WTC attack, and the Cole and our Embassies, and the dozens of hijacked airliners, that engaging them in Iraq and Afghanistan makes them WORSE are genetically stupid retards. Pure and simple.


514 posted on 09/28/2006 11:46:37 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Roccus

LOL!

YOU ROCK!


515 posted on 09/28/2006 11:46:43 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: eeevil conservative

Go Rush Go!


516 posted on 09/28/2006 11:47:12 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

AMEN!

WOO HOO!


517 posted on 09/28/2006 11:47:34 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: eeevil conservative

When they are mad, we are doing something right!


518 posted on 09/28/2006 11:47:39 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: aligncare

Oh......you know about that?

Well I've got this stock that just can't miss. A friend of a friend has an uncle who.............


519 posted on 09/28/2006 11:47:40 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: American Quilter
This caller is a moron. They HATE us!!!! Why should we get along with them?
520 posted on 09/28/2006 11:47:51 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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