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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: Roccus
Are you going to call Hoppy for Steam Release?
41 posted on 09/28/2006 9:13:07 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: Republican Red

General Honore for VP!


42 posted on 09/28/2006 9:13:21 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

wow 164 Dems?


43 posted on 09/28/2006 9:13:39 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: MaestroLC
The MSM was/is Clinton's famous "War Room".

LOL, I remember being struck how Katie NEVER did a sexual harassment story, NEVER interviewed a young women being hit on by her boss.

God save us from our leftwing media!
44 posted on 09/28/2006 9:13:48 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: MaestroLC; LibertyLee; All

Cubicle bound

Article Rushbo referred to


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/27/ap/politics/mainD8KDEI682.shtml


Experts: Public Anger Can Be Refreshing
Some experts say, under the right circumstances, public anger can be refreshing


"It's more important than ever to cut through the clutter," says Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, senior associate dean at Yale's School of Management. "All of us are so over-managed these days. Public figures have platoons of protectors. It's more important than ever to show authentic, real emotion."

Sonnenfeld believes Clinton's anger was genuine, and yet intentionally uncensored. And he says Clinton has told him personally in the past _ he counts himself as one of the former president's many acquaintances _ "that when your critics are wrong, fire back on all cylinders. Take it on with full force and don't let up."


45 posted on 09/28/2006 9:13:54 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: MaestroLC

BJ Clinton is an example of "Luke" at the terrible two's.

46 posted on 09/28/2006 9:14:21 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: A.Hun

Goebbel's school of Reporting - keep repeating it....


47 posted on 09/28/2006 9:14:48 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: A.Hun

Or at least Press Secretary!


48 posted on 09/28/2006 9:14:57 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: Roccus

Don't be so modest. You're fast becoming one of the voices on Free Republic that I look to for words of wisdom on many topics.


49 posted on 09/28/2006 9:15:06 AM PDT by aligncare (This time Islam picked the wrong century and the wrong continent to attack)
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To: MNJohnnie

Hey there!

MUAH!


50 posted on 09/28/2006 9:15:07 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: bwteim

Unfortunately, for a lot of sheeple, it works.


51 posted on 09/28/2006 9:15:24 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Nah, I do occasionally call Tim Brady on WAJR, FM. He (Tim) is supposed to stop by my place on his way back from the Forest Festival in Elkins next week.


52 posted on 09/28/2006 9:15:28 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: MNJohnnie; All
Public displays of rage are now OK because BJ Clintón needs cover?
Am I back in the 90's

I hope the left NEVER figures out that the more they carry this guy's water, the more they loose.

This story is Classic Clinton, makes you wonder just WHAT was in those FBI files that they held for so long...
53 posted on 09/28/2006 9:15:41 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: eeevil conservative

Check yer e-mail....


54 posted on 09/28/2006 9:16:03 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Berlin opera may stage "Idomeneo" if sure of safety

Snort.

55 posted on 09/28/2006 9:16:08 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: RasterMaster

Hey cuz! That would work for me!


56 posted on 09/28/2006 9:16:36 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: RasterMaster

WOOOHOO!!!

awesome link!

thanks!


57 posted on 09/28/2006 9:17:11 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: aligncare

Then you got a big problem!!! All I've got is a million dollars worth of worthless information. :)


58 posted on 09/28/2006 9:17:14 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: RasterMaster
Mozart opera:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110009005

Today it was Mozart. Tomorrow perhaps it will be Shakespeare. Or Dante, who after all has a pretty hot place reserved for Muhammad in "The Divine Comedy." It is not--not yet--too late to put a stop to our habit of appeasing a murderous fanaticism that demands privileges and indulgences it refuses to grant to others.

The spectacle of Deutsche Oper's decision to cancel "Idomeneo" suggests that the West's dealings with Islam have entered a new phase. Yesterday, we waited until after the Muslims took to the streets before capitulating; today, it appears we have moved on to pre-emptive capitulation.

Where will it end? I suppose that depends on how much we really care about the liberty and freedom we champion with words. Freedom, as some wit observed, is not free. Will we have the gumption to pay the cost? The jury is still out on that question. I hope and pray that the answer will be yes. "There is," G.K. Chesterton noted nearly 100 years ago, "a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped."

59 posted on 09/28/2006 9:17:19 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: RasterMaster

If a child is old enough to manipulate by his actions, he is old enough to understand corporal punishment is the result of such attempts. (Of course a pat on the bottom is as corporal as you get.)


60 posted on 09/28/2006 9:17:19 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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