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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: Clint N. Suhks

Yep that is Connery and not photoshopped. Zardoz came out a couple years before Star Wars in 77 and, brace yourself, Zardoz was a flop and didn't to good in theaters. :) Some apocalyptic movie.


421 posted on 09/28/2006 11:11:20 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: TexasPatriot8
Networks Sizzle with Bias In Favor of NYC Trans Fat Ban

newsbusters.org; September 28, 2006 - 13:38.

Last night all three network newscasts did story's on a proposed ban on trans fats in New York City restaurants. Katie Couric practically made out trans fat to be a lethal lipid stalking the stainless steel kitchens of the Big Apple's finest eateries

“New York, New York is getting ready to lead the nation in evicting a killer from restaurants,” teased Katie Couric at the intro to the “Evening News.”

Yet oddly enough, it was her correspondent's report that was the most balanced of the three networks, as correspondent Sharyn Alfonsi reported the price tag accompanying the ban for any restaurants holding on to offending cooking oils: $2,000 per violation.

"Some restaurant owners say their customers want to eat like 9-year-olds, they just don't want to be treated like one," Alfonsi concluded her report. Unlike ABC or NBC, Alfonsi included a spokesman for a New York restaurant trade group and aired clips from Center for Consumer Freedom that mock attempts by food police to regulate and litigate our way to politically correct, healthier eating habits.

422 posted on 09/28/2006 11:11:30 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: All

I'm sure his BOSS appreciated that little meltdown!


423 posted on 09/28/2006 11:11:53 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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Um, The Republicans ARE doing better in the polls. What a stooge.

How exactly can the PResident rig oil prices? Liberals keep saying this and have for years but no one has ever explained HOW the President can do this??? If it was possible, why didn't Clinton ever drop it under a buck to pre Gulf War 1 prices, before the elections in 94, 96, and 98 huh? What a crock. Bush can't lower the price of gas anymore then The Queen of England can make Charles NOT be an a**hole.

424 posted on 09/28/2006 11:13:23 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: RasterMaster

Rush...it's down to 1.76!

http://www.missourigasprices.com/index.aspx?s=Y&fuel=A&area=Jackson&tme_limit=24


425 posted on 09/28/2006 11:13:41 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: RasterMaster; All

Rush / sarcastically:

"Gas at 1.77".
"All of a sudden, the economy is not an election issue anymore"


426 posted on 09/28/2006 11:13:57 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Roccus; All
Well- I feel better....

instead of laying down...I just ranted...

LOL!

SCREW PELOOSI

also at EC, of course...

427 posted on 09/28/2006 11:14:04 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: RasterMaster
No lib media bias here...

CNN Anchor to President Bush: 'You’re Part of the Problem'

September 27, 2006 - 18:14.

During the September 27 edition of "Situation Room," CNN host Jack Cafferty went on a rant over the Bush administration’s handling of the war on terror. After noting that Presidents Musharraf and Karzai, of Pakistan and Afghanistan respectively, are publically feuding over dealing with the terror issue, Cafferty "spoke" the words he believed the two men wish to say, but can’t:

Cafferty: "...I think both of these guys are probably reluctant to say, ‘You know President Bush, you’re part of the problem. You decided to invade Iraq. You had the Taliban on the run. You had killed a lot of the people in Al Qaeda. You had, uh, uh, what’s his name, Osama bin Laden cornered in Tora Bora. You had all these people in your gun sights when all of a sudden, Afghanistan became number two on your priority list because you wanted to run off and wage war against Saddam Hussein.’ But nobody’s going to say that, ‘cept maybe me."

428 posted on 09/28/2006 11:14:36 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: TexasPatriot8
Not only that. Why rig them NOW when rigging them in 2004 would of resulted in such a landslide to render the Democrat Party politically irreverent for a decade.
429 posted on 09/28/2006 11:14:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: RasterMaster

Gas is 2.37 in my area. We are fourth on the list of being taxed the most on gas.


430 posted on 09/28/2006 11:14:46 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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**sigh** T.O.. The pills the assistant thought Owens took when she called 9-11, were later found in a bag in a drawer, proving he didn't O.D. and it was a bad reaction with the other suppliments he took. This is such a non-story. If the Media really thought the DEmocrats were doing so good, they'd be hammering that and not Owens non-O.D..


431 posted on 09/28/2006 11:14:46 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: maggief

Wonder if the Navy will stop running them at CITGO, or get gas from someone else. I wish they'd only use domestic supplies.


432 posted on 09/28/2006 11:15:54 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: TexasPatriot8
Joe ManChin is Dem gov here in West Virginia his approval rating is twice as high as Bush's
433 posted on 09/28/2006 11:16:03 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: eeevil conservative

PoopLossie?


434 posted on 09/28/2006 11:16:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie

LOL!!!

I LIKE THAT!

;-)


435 posted on 09/28/2006 11:16:35 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: maggief
If I owned a CITGO station, I'd start buying gas from someone else and put up a big sign that says "THIS STATION DOES NOT BUY GAS FROM HUGO CHAVEZ OR VENEZUELA".
436 posted on 09/28/2006 11:16:47 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

ZARDOS. Came out in 1974. It's camp. I actually like it...But, I also watch episode after episode of, "The Andy Griffith Show", so what do I know about good movies?


437 posted on 09/28/2006 11:16:56 AM PDT by aligncare (Republicans think democrats are wrong; democrats think republicans are evil.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Down to 1.94 today....I'm sure it will come down another $.20 after the weekend!
438 posted on 09/28/2006 11:17:08 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: MaestroLC

Probably no one but you is saying it but you Cafferty is because it is utter stupid nonsense.


439 posted on 09/28/2006 11:17:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Yeah rally. Not a good picture of Bond. :) 00Yuck.


440 posted on 09/28/2006 11:17:45 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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