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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: RasterMaster

You're quick on the graphics;)


261 posted on 09/28/2006 9:50:46 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: KevinDavis

I love Boston Legal.

(ducking)


262 posted on 09/28/2006 9:50:50 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: kabar

EUW!!!! Icky cigar joke.


263 posted on 09/28/2006 9:50:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: KevinDavis
Bill Shatner is funny as hell in Boston Legal.
264 posted on 09/28/2006 9:51:03 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: kabar

That's why SCOTUS appointments are important.


265 posted on 09/28/2006 9:51:29 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: MNJohnnie

http://cboldt.blogspot.com/

CHANGE OF VENUE

13:15 - UC Agreement reached to set aside S.6061, and take up S.3930. Five amendments will be entertained, each with a time limit. Levin, Rockefeller Kennedy, Byrd and Specter. After debate and vote on each amendment, debate on the bill and vote on the bill. Reid does not object.

So, S.6061, the fence bill, is set aside, and Senator Frist makes opening remarks relating to S.3930.






Time agreement

Levin: substitute bill - 120 minutes
Rockefeller: congressional oversight - 60 minutes
Kennedy: interrogation - 60 minutes
Byrd: sunset - 60 minutes
Specter/Leahy: habeas - 120 minutes
General debate: 180 minutes





266 posted on 09/28/2006 9:51:44 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
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To: RasterMaster

267 posted on 09/28/2006 9:51:51 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; All

I have never watch Boston Legal....


268 posted on 09/28/2006 9:51:52 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: eeevil conservative
Its the Left Coast for you I'm reading a book on Saladin you know the leftest have always made this guy out to be such great hero but in truth he was cold hearted killer
269 posted on 09/28/2006 9:51:59 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: All

Kharzai called Musharef "brother"....


270 posted on 09/28/2006 9:52:20 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: American Quilter

For heaven's sake--Tony Snow had to waste his time talking about The Handshake? Democrats' minds get tinier every day.


271 posted on 09/28/2006 9:52:26 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: cibco; All

Also important that we have a majority in Senate..... Rinos or not...


272 posted on 09/28/2006 9:53:05 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: MaestroLC
Nancy Pelosi is speaking. Someone please stick a screwdriver in my ear...

Earplugs are highly effective and much less invasive...We need your ears to keep track of these idiotic dems... :-)

273 posted on 09/28/2006 9:53:21 AM PDT by b4its2late (I'm not insensitive, I just don't care.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade
Limbaugh: Pirro has a husband problem...

Me: So why in Hades is she still married to this jerk?!

That's enough for me to question her judgement...

274 posted on 09/28/2006 9:53:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

yes- Like they make victims AND heroes out of terrorists...

sounds about right....


275 posted on 09/28/2006 9:53:48 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: KevinDavis

Right on!


276 posted on 09/28/2006 9:53:54 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: KevinDavis

RINOs. 'Rats. No diff.


277 posted on 09/28/2006 9:54:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: KevinDavis
Has a tremendous liberal slant but funny as hell.


William Shatner plays the doofus conservative.
278 posted on 09/28/2006 9:54:29 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: mewzilla

Why the hell is Rush talking about this I could care less


279 posted on 09/28/2006 9:54:29 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: mewzilla; All

At least the Rinos have been helping us getting the Judges through.. The keep to get rid of Rinos is beat them in the primaries...


280 posted on 09/28/2006 9:55:20 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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