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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: Sensei Ern

LOL!

just a more fun way to medicate!

;-)


121 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:59 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: RasterMaster

Figures.


122 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:00 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Mo1

It WAS close...and Rockefeller is saying that Bush "manufactured" intelligence...and that for 4 YEARS even the intelligence committee was kept in the dark..

I don't know about you...but I thought Bush HAD told a select few Intell Congressweinies about all of the programs...

Rocky is just in a SNIT


123 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:10 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: ct_libertarian
Mozart was was the big loser in all of this...

Don't get me wrong. I am certain that the production, which premiered in 2003, is a horror. In Mozart's version, the opera, set on Crete in the aftermath of the Trojan War, is a play about sacrifice and reconciliation. The opera ends with King Idomeneo issuing a "last command. I announce peace," before ceding power to his son.

Mr. Neuenfels's version is Modern German--i.e., gratuitously offensive. It is more Neuenfels than Mozart. Instead of appearing as the harbinger of peace, Idomeneo ends the opera parading the severed heads of Poseidon, Jesus, Buddha and the Prophet Muhammad. How do you spell "anachronistic balderdash"?

Poor Mozart. Mr. Neuenfels is one of those directors more interested in nurturing his own pathologies than in offering a faithful presentation of the geniuses with whose work he has been entrusted.

124 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:15 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: RasterMaster

Uh, My dad wasn't around either.


125 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:17 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I can't watch Paula anymore because of that. She also fawned all over France and it made me sick. She needs to go on a diet!


126 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:19 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: All

AP = Al queda Press


127 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:21 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: aligncare

They are union and probably at lunch.


128 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:33 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Sensei Ern

Plus- if I am going to FEEL like I have a hangover, I would at least like to EARN that feeling- LOL!


129 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:40 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: aligncare

WLS is working.


130 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:49 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: angcat

I can't stand Racheal Ray either.


131 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:49 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Sensei Ern

I didn't want to call his momma white trash....but if you insist!


132 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:59 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: Txsleuth

Just another carpetbagger @$$#o!e!!


133 posted on 09/28/2006 9:29:10 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: Txsleuth
I don't know about you...but I thought Bush HAD told a select few Intell Congressweinies about all of the programs

Yep and Rocky is lying about the rest of the bs is saying

134 posted on 09/28/2006 9:29:35 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Nancy Pelosi is speaking. Someone please stick a screwdriver in my ear...


135 posted on 09/28/2006 9:29:47 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: eeevil conservative
NO! thank goodness...

Oh, good. I've never had a migraine, but I know they're terrible. Hope you feel better soon!

136 posted on 09/28/2006 9:29:56 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: MaestroLC

Sounds like Pelosi wants the courts to run the war.


137 posted on 09/28/2006 9:30:21 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Roccus

"No, no, no, no
I don't take them no more.
I'm tired of waking up on the floor!"

No, thank you, please
It only makes me sneeze
THen it's hard for me to find the door!


138 posted on 09/28/2006 9:30:25 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: Roccus
Someone should tell that nut job that those dirt bags have cut the heads off our brave troops!
139 posted on 09/28/2006 9:30:28 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
I can't stand Racheal Ray either.

Ditto. Ditto. Ditto.

140 posted on 09/28/2006 9:30:30 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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