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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: Txsleuth

That was close

Rocky's amendment up next


101 posted on 09/28/2006 9:25:18 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
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To: Txsleuth

WOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


102 posted on 09/28/2006 9:25:38 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: MNJohnnie

"The phrase was also used (on page 51) in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile"


Fascinating. Bookmarking for later. Thanks!


103 posted on 09/28/2006 9:25:56 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: MNJohnnie
Rush sounded angry when he said "get to the point" but on 24/7 he was laughing his ass off.
104 posted on 09/28/2006 9:25:58 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Hello.


105 posted on 09/28/2006 9:26:01 AM PDT by defconw (Gearing up for W2 in 08!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Hey there!!!

;-)


106 posted on 09/28/2006 9:26:06 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: Txsleuth

That's surprising.


107 posted on 09/28/2006 9:26:19 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: All

I SAW THE DAMN HANDSHAKE!


108 posted on 09/28/2006 9:26:33 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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WABC hasn't streamed Rush yet! It's 12:26 eastern.


109 posted on 09/28/2006 9:26:36 AM PDT by aligncare (This time Islam picked the wrong century and the wrong continent to attack)
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To: eeevil conservative
I have a horrible head-ache...

Not a migraine, I hope.

110 posted on 09/28/2006 9:26:55 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: eeevil conservative

SO Doc EC's cure for headaches is a hangover?


111 posted on 09/28/2006 9:26:58 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Why waste time on 3 Former Military Stooges?


112 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: defconw

Hand shake= new dem talking point.


113 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:00 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: bwteim

Great news I agree. What sacres me is the 48 idiots.


114 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:23 AM PDT by Current Occupant (DBM, Libs, 5th column,PC will destroy this country. Preach it TALKIES while you still can!!!!!!)
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To: aligncare
Maybe Gotti bombed the station?
115 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:23 AM PDT by defconw (Gearing up for W2 in 08!)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

"I'm sick of these so called officers giving the Dem's big fire power"

That's just it - it's only big fire power in the eyes of the delusional.


116 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:26 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

But IT'S A LIE....I saw the handshake on Fox.


117 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:31 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Good Point


118 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:33 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: American Quilter

NO! thank goodness...


119 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:38 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: Sensei Ern

Just some hair of the dog.


120 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:40 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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