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Why Darwinism Is Doomed
WorldNetDaily ^ | 09/27/2006 | Jonathan Wells

Posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:09 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: js1138

Shoot. I mean post 333.


421 posted on 09/28/2006 6:30:16 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Theo

I re-read his post. It was a bit terse and I can see how you might be offended.

Just remember to keep Scripture in the proper context.


422 posted on 09/28/2006 6:32:10 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: 13Sisters76
Since NO one really knows- only the dopes are afraid of any idea that opposes their orthodoxy.

Which explains the vehemency of CR/IDers on these threads.

Pretty funny link -- thanks for the AM laugh.

423 posted on 09/28/2006 6:34:17 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: Theo
Darwinism is absolutely not compatible with Scriptural Christianity.

Ok. Then go away. Take your scripture and go somewhere else. This site is for people who will open their minds and think.

OK, I acknowledge that post 333 is rude and counterproductive. Will you acknowledge that the post it responds to is also rude and counterproductive?

424 posted on 09/28/2006 6:35:35 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: js1138
OK, I acknowledge that post 333 is rude and counterproductive.

Remember the sarcasm rule: it has to be really, really dripping. The folks new to these threads lack that elan that brings us fogies to these threads ;)

425 posted on 09/28/2006 6:38:32 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: razzle; Last Visible Dog; js1138
js used that same (Reverend Moon) routine with me a few weeks ago when I dared to question darwinism. (anyone who questions their faith is a kook apparently).

Stupid, ignorant, crazy or evil, to paraphrase Dawkins. Personally, I oonsider anyone who calls evolution a "faith" to be a kook.

426 posted on 09/28/2006 6:38:37 AM PDT by Virginia-American (What do you call an honest creationist? An evolutionist.)
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To: spunkets
When you quote someone, make sure you get it right. Your quote of me left out the link to your original trash remark at post #68. The article is rubbish. There's nothing intellectual about it.

You are being dishonest - I quoted your entire statement. What do you think is rubbish - we sure as heck are not going to take your word one.

Speaking of hypocrisy

Now as for #68 - you took my comment out of context - this is what I was responding to:

"won't disturb the evolution ping list for a nonsensical creationist article. This thread is an embarrassment to conservatism."

An Evo was attacking the article with name-calling and empty unsupported accusations - acting like an "evo bozo" - thus the alert - WARNING: Evo Bozo's are going to attack this piece with name-calling and empty unsupported accusation. Check the tread - I was correct.

427 posted on 09/28/2006 6:44:54 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: spunkets
It's simply wrong and contains many flat out lies.

Please give us examples of these lies

You're not interested, or capable of arguing this material anyway. It's beyond your ability.

Why do Evo-Extremists turn to name-calling and personal insults so often? Are you trying to demonstrate how smart you think you are?

Clearly my Evo-Bozo alert was justified.

428 posted on 09/28/2006 6:49:34 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: DaGman
American lack of education, whether they be the product of govenment schools or not, doesn't change the facts of evolution.

You use the term "American" broadly. The unstated assumption seems to be that those who doubt the mechanism of Natural Selection plus random mutation are the very same who lack education.

As the many EDUCATED scientists ( at least 400 of whom have signed a statement expressing their doubts ) have shown --- this unstated assumption does not hold water.
429 posted on 09/28/2006 6:57:28 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
You use the term "American" broadly. The unstated assumption seems to be that those who doubt the mechanism of Natural Selection plus random mutation are the very same who lack education.

TToE is the only scientific theory that explains the evidence.

As the many EDUCATED scientists ( at least 400 of whom have signed a statement expressing their doubts ) have shown --- this unstated assumption does not hold water.

400 scientists out of how many hundreds of thousands? Every group has a moonbat wing.

430 posted on 09/28/2006 6:59:43 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: stands2reason
Anyone who joins a cult has suspect mental faculties

Only to a bigot. Like MLK said (paraphrased and updated) - we need to judge a man by the context of his character and not the color of his skin or his religion

especially if he got into science because his "prophet" called him to do so

He got his Ph.D. from a prestigious college - not from his prophet.

Are you a Moonie or something?

No, I am just someone that calls out Male Bovine Fecal Matter when I see it.

Why don't you rebut the article rather than attack the man's religion?

We have freedom of religion in this country - I guess you are against freedom - do you want to force your personal religion on other people?

431 posted on 09/28/2006 7:00:45 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Buck W.

Buck,
I never once claimed to be of the strictly literal camp. Nor am I.

I simply asked... if you are not going to decide what to believe about the Savior based on Scripture, then how will you know?

I don't know any other way to ask that question. I wish I could be clearer in some way.

If you don't want to continue this discussion because it is too private, I respect your wishes.

Blessings to you,
ampu


432 posted on 09/28/2006 7:04:51 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: muawiyah
I think there's sufficient evidence now to demonstrate that Mohammad, as he is portrayed in the Koran and the Hadiths, never really existed.

Religions merely reflect the cultures that practice them. Conjure up a faith necessitated by violent criminals sadly in possesion of low IQs who wish to expand their holdings by the takings of others. What would it look like?

If one were to examine a bell curve that covered ranges including both IQ and passive->violent personalities, one could easily map where judiasm, xians & muzzies were on the graph.

Gene therapy is our only way out; the muzzies need to be administered to first. Next would be the IDers. The Pope is smart because it's unlikely science will ever figure out who/what established the rules of the universe.

433 posted on 09/28/2006 7:14:12 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: Last Visible Dog
Please give us examples of these lies

Let's start with this:

...this anti-religious dogma enjoys a taxpayer-funded monopoly in America's public schools and universities. Teachers who dare to question it openly have in many cases lost their jobs.

How is evolution anti-religious, except that like astronomy, it contradicts some literal readings of the Bible? More specifically, tell us how the evolution is anti-religious, and heliocentrism not anti-religious.

Now, I am suspicious of "many" teachers being fired for questioning evolution. I would like to see a list. Would you consider a science teacher competent who taught that the earth cannot move?

434 posted on 09/28/2006 7:14:24 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: Last Visible Dog
He got his Ph.D. from a prestigious college - not from his prophet.

How should we judge such a transparent attempt to sidestep the question?

Why don't you rebut the article rather than attack the man's religion?

The only apparent basis the man has for making the assertions and drawing the conclusions in this article is his religion. Are you saying we can't challenge those assertions and conclusions on the same basis?

435 posted on 09/28/2006 7:15:46 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: The_Reader_David

TRD,
Thanks for the time you put into your thoughtful response.

Unfortunately, I find myself in disagreement with the argument that the scriptures are "merely our primary testimony of Him". They reveal Him. They reveal the true words he spoke. They delineate how to place faith in Him. And on and on. They are not merely the primary source. They are THE source of instruction for what must a man do to be saved.

You will search the scriptures in vain to find instructions to bow before man made images of God as a way of salvation. This is simply a tradition of man.

As to Paul's words... I learned Greek in seminar, so I do understand the meaning of the words used. Though anyone can use the good tools today that make the original languages accessible. The NT canon was not formed when Paul wrote these words - agreed. But Peter obviously was familiar with Paul's writings - so there were revealed books in circulation as letters to the Churches. There is nothing in Paul's words that limits them to just the Hebrew scriptures. Paul himself knew he was writing under the inspiration of God. It would be self-defeating to argue that he didn't include those inspired words.

Thankfully, we can agree that Jesus Christ is the Pearl of Great Price!

blessings to you,
ampu


436 posted on 09/28/2006 7:17:53 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: stands2reason
Idiots is plural. It is a group attack, which is somehow acceptable.

What are you claiming - if you name-call against a group it is ok. Where did you get that wacked idea. My statement was not plural but that is irrelevant because all I was saying is here comes the nonsense, name-calling, and unsupported accusations.

Seems like the English language may be your second language.

What a dumba$$.

Great, you make an unsupported claim (name-calling is acceptable on Free Republic if it is against a group) and then you spew name-calling and personal insults.

(I didn't call you a dumba$$ just there according to you, and maybe Bill Clinton)

Speaking of being a dumba$$ - is that statement supposed to be in English?

(it is funny when an arrogant person flaunts their ignorance while spewing unsupported claims, personal insults, and claims of intellectual superiority)

437 posted on 09/28/2006 7:19:23 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That's the "living torah" doctrine.


438 posted on 09/28/2006 7:21:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stands2reason
Are they not supposed to be interested in other areas of science? Why do creos call all science they don't like "evolution"?

You linked to my message related to the Pussy Cat Dolls - it was a joke and the last line of the message I say it is a joke. Your comments makes absolutely no sense.

439 posted on 09/28/2006 7:25:51 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: stands2reason
I thought you were sincere. Next time I know better.

So I am not sincere because I made a joke? (and clearly stated it was a joke)

You sound like a very bitter and angry person.

440 posted on 09/28/2006 7:28:00 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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