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Larry Sabato Recants, Didn't Hear Allen
Newsmax ^ | 9/27/06 | Newsmax Staff

Posted on 09/27/2006 7:42:34 AM PDT by truthandlife

One of Virginia's best-known political analysts said he had never personally heard Sen. George Allen use racial epithets, despite saying on television a day earlier that the senator "did use the n-word."

Larry J. Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, said Tuesday in an e-mail to The Associated Press, "I didn't personally hear GFA (Allen's initials) say the n-word.

"My conclusion is based on the very credible testimony I have heard for weeks, mainly from people I personally know and knew in the '70s," Sabato wrote.

Sabato, a classmate of Allen's at the University of Virginia in the early 1970s, said Monday on MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews" that he knew Allen had used racial slurs, but declined to say whether he had witnessed them.

Allen, a Republican who had been mentioned as a presidential contender and is now fighting an unexpectedly difficult race for a second U.S. Senate term, had said through a campaign aide that Sabato's claim was inaccurate.

"We're obviously glad that Mr. Sabato clarified his comments," said Dick Wadhams, Allen's campaign manager. "We remain committed to trying to dispel these erroneous stories that have been out there."

Also Tuesday, Allen's Democratic opponent, Jim Webb, declined to say definitively whether he had ever used a racial slur to describe blacks.

"I don't think that there's anyone who grew up around the South that hasn't had the word pass through their lips at one time or another in their life," Webb told reporters.

Webb referred to his novel, "Fields of Fire," which aides said includes passages using the n-word as part of character dialogue. But he added: "I have never issued a racial or ethnic slur."

Asked for clarification of his original answer, spokeswoman Jessica Smith quoted Webb as saying, "I have never used that word in my general vocabulary or in any derogatory way."

She declined to say whether he had ever used the word apart from when he wrote his book.

Allegations of racial insensitivity by Allen dating to his high school days in California have become a major distraction for the senator since August, when he called a Webb campaign volunteer of Indian descent "macaca." The word is considered a racial slur in some cultures.

On Monday, a former football teammate of Allen's, Dr. Ken Shelton, said he heard Allen frequently use a common slur applied to blacks among white friends while in college. Allen called the claim "ludicrously false" and released statements from four other ex-teammates defending the senator and rejecting Shelton's claims.

Also in interviews with the AP and Salon.com late Sunday, Shelton claimed that on a hunting trip to Louisa County in 1973 or 1974, Allen stuffed the severed head of a female deer into the oversized mailbox of a black household near Bumpass, Va., 40 miles east of the university.

But in interviews Tuesday, two Louisa County sheriff's deputies who were on the force in the early '70s said that they recall no complaints about severed animal heads.

Retired Lt. Robert Rigsby said he was in charge of investigations in the early '70s, and any such report would have gone through him.

"I think that's a myth," Rigsby said.


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To: Howlin

Never right and frequently left.


121 posted on 09/27/2006 9:25:25 AM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: Howlin

All I have to say .. they are showing their sides .. loud and clear


122 posted on 09/27/2006 9:33:50 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
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To: montag813
Mark Levin ripped Sabato a new one last night. I guess Larry was listening.

I listened to him on KABC in Los Angeles last night. I think they replay the 1st hour at around 9pm PDT. He took Sabato and the other two guys apart.

123 posted on 09/27/2006 10:14:15 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Ma'am, you don't have to thank us. You just go beat him for us." Soldier to Irey re: Murtha)
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To: A Citizen Reporter


OMG! Not one question?


124 posted on 09/27/2006 10:15:17 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I'm really beginning to wonder if we aren't seeing some early-70s UVa grudges getting played out on a grand scale here. As in, Sabato and Shelton are jealous of Allen getting all the chicks or something. There's something nasty lurking under the surface here, and all of the trails seem to lead back to Charlottesville during the early 1970s.

}:-)4


125 posted on 09/27/2006 10:28:17 AM PDT by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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To: truthandlife
Also in interviews with the AP and Salon.com late Sunday, Shelton claimed that on a hunting trip to Louisa County in 1973 or 1974, Allen stuffed the severed head of a female deer into the oversized mailbox of a black household near Bumpass, Va., 40 miles east of the university. But in interviews Tuesday, two Louisa County sheriff's deputies who were on the force in the early '70s said that they recall no complaints about severed animal heads.

Maybe they are in the wrong business. Instead of politics, perhaps they should write scripts for Hollywood.

And I'm supposed to worry for Allen's re-election chances beased on this?

126 posted on 09/27/2006 10:30:12 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: headstamp

Wasn't a Los Angeles detective involved in the OJSimpson case smeared because he used the N word in a novel he was writing?


127 posted on 09/27/2006 10:30:19 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: maggief

Wow. You really can feel some hatred coming through that piece...so much for "impartiality" (not that Sabato's ever had any).

Eventually it's going to come out that in 1971, Allen and a couple of the other UVa football jocks gave Sabato a swirly in one of the dorms. And Larry's been waiting 35 years to get revenge. Or maybe Larry got jealous that Allen ended up in one of those cramped ancient rooms on The Lawn that all the UVa students lust after, and Larry was living in some cockroach-infested craphole off Rugby Road.

}:-)4


128 posted on 09/27/2006 10:32:10 AM PDT by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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To: truthandlife
Larry and I have known many of the same UVA instructional staff since the early 1980s.

Doesn't mean a thing.

For all anybody knows Larry stops and has sex with men at the I66 rest-stop near Manassas on his trips to and from Washington DC, and I bet I can find more than one UVA staffer who'd swear to that.

Larry is not as popular with his fellows as he imagines.

129 posted on 09/27/2006 10:44:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: onyx; Howlin; Miss Marple
Rush nailing Sabato.
130 posted on 09/27/2006 10:45:27 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("And you got that little smirk on your face, and you think you're so clever!")
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To: A Citizen Reporter

I hope he knows about the "maa\caca" guy being Larry's STUDENY.


131 posted on 09/27/2006 10:46:36 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

He didn't mention that part.


132 posted on 09/27/2006 10:47:44 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("And you got that little smirk on your face, and you think you're so clever!")
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Chuck Robb was a hero to every guy in the military ~ he stepped up to the plate and VOLUNTEERED to take LBJ's eldest daughter off everyone's hands.

That took guts.

133 posted on 09/27/2006 10:47:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: truthandlife

For his sake, Sabato better have gotten a huge payoff over this because his "unbiased" credibility is forever ruined.


134 posted on 09/27/2006 10:50:06 AM PDT by admiralsn ("How do you get a ceasefire with terrorists?" - - UN Ambassador John Bolton)
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To: zendari
Who the hell cares about this crap? Certainly not the party of KKK Robert Byrd.
And we should bring this up each and every time these scumbags try to smear a conservative because, "he used the N word 35 years ago."
135 posted on 09/27/2006 10:51:40 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: admiralsn

We can at least put Sabato in the same category as Zogby.


136 posted on 09/27/2006 10:52:30 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: onyx

Has Larry adopted a strange haircut lately?


137 posted on 09/27/2006 10:53:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Moose4

Sabato appears to have had an axe to grind for some time ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10509653/site/newsweek/

That landed the son at the University of Virginia, where, essentially, he has been ever since. "He's perfected a drawl, but he's really more West than South," says Larry Sabato, a UVA politics professor and Allen classmate.

//

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/programs/debates/00_transcript.htm


2000 U.S. Senatorial Debate - Transcript

October 22, 2000, NBC 12 Richmond, Va.
Moderator: Larry J. Sabato
Candidates: Chuck Robb (D), George Allen (R)


Sabato>>> Mr. Allen, your own wife, your own chief of staff asked you not to say those words about the Democrats since you were governor of all the people in Virginia. But you did it anyway, just as you have uttered other inflammatory statements during your political career. Can you see why Virginians by an overwhelming margin in a recent Time Dispatch - Channel 12 poll judged Mr. Robb and not you as someone who looks and acts like a senator?

//

http://loper.org/~george/archives/2004/Apr/957.html

Sabato introduced Allen as a classmate in the UVa class of 1974, noting that Allen was president of the fourth-year class while he was the Student Council president.


138 posted on 09/27/2006 10:53:48 AM PDT by maggief
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To: muawiyah


I haven't seen him in a while. Did he change it or purchase a new wig?


139 posted on 09/27/2006 10:55:16 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx
I just checked through several hundred Larry Sabato pictures. It looks like the same wig in every picture.

I want to see if he's got a modified Mohawk under the rug.

140 posted on 09/27/2006 10:58:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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