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A Silence in the Afghan Mountains (National Guard Special Forces in detainee deaths)
LA Times ^ | September 24, 2006 | Kevin Sack and Craig Pyes

Posted on 09/26/2006 8:02:21 AM PDT by 2banana

GARDEZ, Afghanistan — After completing their deployment to this remote firebase, the Green Berets of ODA 2021 left for home covered in glory.

The 10-member Special Forces team, part of the Alabama National Guard, returned to their families in the spring of 2003 with tales to tell of frenzied firefights and narrow escapes.

Its commander had nominated each of his men — as well as himself — for medals for valor. The team's performance was heralded as evidence that the Guard could play as equals with the regular Army in the war on terrorism.

But the team also had come home with secrets.

Apparently unknown to Army officials, two detainees had died in the team's custody in separate incidents during the unit's final month in eastern Afghanistan. Several other detainees allege that they were badly beaten or tortured while held at the base in Gardez.

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Most of the bases singled out by the agency were under the control of National Guardsmen with the Alabama-based 20th Special Forces Group. The compound at Gardez, then occupied by ODA 2021, was portrayed as one of the worst. Detainees there alleged they were beaten, kicked, immersed in icy water and deprived of sleep for days at a time.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; detaineedeaths; specialforces; treasonmedia
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1 posted on 09/26/2006 8:02:23 AM PDT by 2banana
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...deprived of sleep for days at a time??! Oh, the horror, the horror ....


2 posted on 09/26/2006 8:05:23 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: 2banana
The Times has since reviewed thousands of pages of internal military records showing that prisoner abuse by Special Forces units was more common in Afghanistan than previously acknowledged.

Too bad the Times doesn't care as much about those barbarians beheading or blowing up people.

3 posted on 09/26/2006 8:07:42 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

At least they won't be getting Geneva Convention "rights".


4 posted on 09/26/2006 8:10:35 AM PDT by yobid
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To: 2banana

Oh, let's see - beaten, kicked, immersed in icy water, deprived of sleep for days at a time. Sounds like what I'd like to do to Taliban Johnny Walker Lind just for starters. Too bad those guys didn't get hold of him while they were there.


5 posted on 09/26/2006 8:17:29 AM PDT by fishergirl (Choose your vices carefully, then be loyal to them.)
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To: 2banana

And of course, "detainees" would NEVER, EVER lie!!!
But of course, the word of a Taliban is worth so much more then the word of an American soldier.


6 posted on 09/26/2006 8:17:39 AM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
The LA Times is among a number of newspapers who povided false information to ABC (Audit Bureau of Circulation) in order to deceive potential advertisers and to charge rates higher than market rate for the actual level of circulation.

Why should we believe anything they say before executives, managers, editors, and reporters have served time in jail to prove due penance for their crimes.

7 posted on 09/26/2006 8:18:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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YOU ARE SO RIGHT!


8 posted on 09/26/2006 8:18:53 AM PDT by fishergirl (Choose your vices carefully, then be loyal to them.)
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To: muawiyah
The LA Times is among a number of newspapers who povided false information to ABC (Audit Bureau of Circulation) in order to deceive potential advertisers and to charge rates higher than market rate for the actual level of circulation.

They deserve to go out of business.

9 posted on 09/26/2006 8:21:37 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: fishergirl

Thank you


10 posted on 09/26/2006 8:21:54 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: 2banana

They Support Our Troops by Betraying Our Troops


11 posted on 09/26/2006 8:25:07 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Are we as free as we used to be?)
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"Detainees there alleged they were beaten, kicked, immersed in icy water and deprived of sleep for days at a time."

My computer crashed big time and couldn't get on Free Republic. I was emotionally beaten and couldn't sleep for days. I kicked myself unmercilessly for trying to fix it myself and ruined it completely. Had to get another computer. Ice water? Naw. I stayed away from water and didn't bathe for days and let my beard grow for a couple of weeks. I survived and here I am, even though I didn't eat enough to keep a bird alive during the period. My only complaint is that my girlfriend wouldn't put her panties on my head because I was so grumpy and had B.O.

Now, what was the detainees complaining about?

12 posted on 09/26/2006 8:26:32 AM PDT by Eastbound
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Too bad the Times doesn't care as much about those barbarians beheading or blowing up people.

Which they might want to pay attention to, since the Paki gov't. has just basically surrendered to the Taliban and Al-Q'aeda on the other side of the mountains from Gardez.

Operationally, this will release beefy formations of Taliwhackers to cross the mountains and attack these SF outposts. "A Silence in the Mountains" indeed -- junior-league Left-wing, guerrilla-theater dramatics, recalling both Rachel Carson (Silent Spring) and Tacitus ("solitudines faciunt et pacem appellant"). If you read the whole article, there's gunplay aplenty. Silence, my ass. Self-consequent liberal wankers.

13 posted on 09/26/2006 8:29:29 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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The Times won't get it until those barbarians fly a plane into their building.


14 posted on 09/26/2006 8:31:47 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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.....those barbarians beheading or blowing up people.

Oh, and did I mention that, among the surrender capitulations signed by the Paki government (Musharraf may fall in weeks or months, and the Moo's get their hands on the nuclear arsenal at last -- think about that for a while!), were stipulations that the Paks abandon-in-place their remaining armories and weapons, that they release immediately 2500 Taliban/AQ prisoners held by the Paks, and that they turn over a substantial sum of cash?

Or that the releasees -- who are free in the mountains already and reconstituting themselves -- include several of the murderers of correspondent Daniel Pearl?

15 posted on 09/26/2006 8:36:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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the releasees -- who are free in the mountains already and reconstituting themselves -- include several of the murderers of correspondent Daniel Pearl?

The Times is so naive and so are the subscribers.

16 posted on 09/26/2006 8:39:14 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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The Times won't get it until those barbarians fly a plane into their building.

They may get it when one of those Pak nuclear weapons takes out everything between Chavez Ravine and LAX.

17 posted on 09/26/2006 8:40:26 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: 2banana

Liberals are traitors.


18 posted on 09/26/2006 8:41:32 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: lentulusgracchus
They may get it when one of those Pak nuclear weapons takes out everything between Chavez Ravine and LAX.

It will take their dying moment for a liberal this committed to hating our military to get it.

19 posted on 09/26/2006 8:45:55 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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...immersed in icy water and deprived of sleep for days at a time.

Sounds like SEAL training to me!

20 posted on 09/26/2006 9:04:40 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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