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4 Major California Home Markets See Drop In Prices
Associated Press ^ | September 20, 2006

Posted on 09/25/2006 8:41:42 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Sep 20, 2006

4 Major California Home Markets See Drop In Prices

(AP) LOS ANGELES A real estate research firm says the median price of a California home increased last month at the slowest annual rate in nine years.

Four counties actually saw price declines. Among the largest real estate markets, according to DataQuick Information Systems, the steepest drop was 6.7 percent in San Mateo County. Other decreases were seen in Marin County (2.3 percent), San Diego County (2.2 percent) and Alameda County (1.5 percent).

Appreciation in Sonoma, Santa Clara, San Francisco and Contra Costa counties was essentially flat.

The statewide median price was $472,000 in August, a 3.5 percent hike over the year-ago period. It was the slowest increase since June 1997, when statewide home prices rose just 2.8 percent.

(© 2006 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California
KEYWORDS: bubblebrigade; depression; despair; doom; dustbowl; eeyore; gloom; grapesofwrath; housingbubble; joebtfsplk; nonewland; theskyisfalling
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To: stuartcr

But they aren't-

Average household income in LA is $35000. Average house is $470,000. It just doesn't add up.

Historically, that has been true, but in the last 10 years or so it has fallen out of balance.


61 posted on 09/25/2006 10:28:15 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Howard Jarvis Admirer

You still pay much more in total taxes and home cost than Texans do.


62 posted on 09/25/2006 10:31:15 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: RockinRight

How about this math:

House bought in San Diego in 1996 - $145,000
Winter Coat - $0
Gas Bill - $0
Snow Shovel - $0
Proposition 13 property tax protection - $priceless

House in Cali - $145,000

If you buy in California at the bottom of the real estate cycle, you will profit. If you buy now at the peak, you will be sorry. I bought at the bottom when people told me not to buy. (the Cold War is over, San Diego will lose its Navy bases etc etc etc... housing will collapse . . .)


63 posted on 09/25/2006 10:32:25 AM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: Howard Jarvis Admirer

It will never drop that low in Cali.


64 posted on 09/25/2006 10:34:54 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: oldfart
When I lived in Mira Mesa, a local developer had people camping for weeks to purchase new homes priced at $300,000. The lots weren't even graded yet. The houses were built and new owners started moving in. Six months later, prices crashed. The same home on a lot down the street was being sold for $240,000. The original purchasers were outraged and upside down. That was around 1993. If they stayed, the "upside down" problem abated by 2000.
65 posted on 09/25/2006 10:40:22 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Howard Jarvis Admirer

I should say "drop that low this time."


66 posted on 09/25/2006 10:40:27 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: RockinRight

Depends where you buy in California. Certainly you won't find that price in San Diego, but check out Imperial County or the High Desert Counties near Baker or Victorville. I wouldn't live there because it is hot and dry like Claude, Taxus (where my RV got a flat tire one year. I ran into a local Taxan homeowner in the public library complaining out loud to the librarian about his property taxes going up)- but the property taxes are fixed unlike Taxus.

It all depends if you wait for the real estate cycle to hit bottom - my guess is that California prices will go down in 2007 or 2008.


67 posted on 09/25/2006 10:49:05 AM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

You might want to read the following for the bigger picture. I think what we are experiencing is a massive credit bubble. Real estate is just one of the major symptoms. The following requires some attention and focus to get through it, but I think you will find that it was well worth your time once you're finished. If you do choose to read it, I'd appreciate your comments--GGG:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2633/is_3_18/ai_n6276704


68 posted on 09/25/2006 10:50:52 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Howard Jarvis Admirer

Well, I'm not planning to move to Cali.

Besides, in my line of work, if prices drop that low, I probably won't have a job. Not in Cali anyway. And if I do, my income will drop proportionately...


69 posted on 09/25/2006 10:51:31 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea; GodGunsGuts

The author of that piece, Doug Noland, operates the Prudent Bear fund. He's a goldbug of the highest caliber, and operates a financial services business entirely predicated on convincing you how bad things are.

As the saying goes, he's predicted 10 of the last zero great depressions.


70 posted on 09/25/2006 10:55:11 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Petronski

Well put.


71 posted on 09/25/2006 10:57:57 AM PDT by Miss Behave (You can't negotiate with people who want to kill you more than they want to live. ~Caller to Hannity)
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To: Miss Behave

It's easy to see why GarrulousGoldGroupie would want to conceal that fact.


72 posted on 09/25/2006 11:01:16 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: RockinRight

How do they qualify for mortgages then?


73 posted on 09/25/2006 11:04:49 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Petronski; leakinInTheBlueSea; GodGunsGuts

He is quite open about his bear posture. Still, I think FReepers are perfectly capable of reading different perspectives and deciding for themselves. Stating that Noland works for PBF by no means invalidates his argument. It's something to keep in mind while reading the article, and to help guide one's search for alternative/competing perspectives.


74 posted on 09/25/2006 11:05:43 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: stuartcr

No Income Verification loans in many cases.

That, and many lenders will allow a total debt to income ratio of 55% nowadays...off the GROSS income. In other words, total monthly debt payments divided by income.


75 posted on 09/25/2006 11:10:55 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: dalereed; nopardons; Toddsterpatriot; jennyjenny; Mase; Moonman62; stylin19a; goldstategop; ...
In order to see starkly inside the mind of a gloomwhoring goldbug, everyone should read carefully the exchange in #27 and #32:

Petronski: You said you hope there is another depression so you can profit from the misery of others. More than once you have said this.

dalereed: Sure do, just biding my time.

76 posted on 09/25/2006 11:12:01 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: RockinRight

insane


77 posted on 09/25/2006 11:12:12 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

Many people barely bring home 55% of their income.


78 posted on 09/25/2006 11:13:17 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: RockinRight

If you don't mind my asking, how long have you been in the business?


79 posted on 09/25/2006 11:14:52 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: RockinRight

Unfortunately, quite true.


80 posted on 09/25/2006 11:15:09 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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