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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Monday 09-25-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-25-06

Posted on 09/25/2006 7:57:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1702290/posts?page=1

The Good Life At Gitmo

ON the military plane back from America's most fa mous terrorist holding pen, the in-flight film was "V for Vendetta," a screed that tries to justify terrorism. It was a fitting end to a surreal, military-sponsored trip.

The Pentagon seemed to be hoping to disarm its critics by showing them how well it cares for captured terrorists. The trip was more alarming than disarming. I spent several hours with Rear Adm. Harry B. Harris Jr., who heads the joint task force that houses and interrogates the detainees. (The military isn't allowed to call them "prisoners.")

Harris, a distinguished Navy veteran who was born in Japan and educated at Annapolis and Harvard, is a serious man trying to do a politically impossible job. I spoke with him at length, and with a dozen other officers and guards, and visited three different detention blocks.

The high-minded critics who complain about torture are wrong. We are far too soft on these guys - and, as a result, aren't getting the valuable intelligence we need to save American lives.

The politically correct regulations are unbelievable. Detainees are entitled to a full eight hours sleep and can't be woken up for interrogations. They enjoy three meals and five prayers per day, without interruption. They are entitled to a minimum of two hours of outdoor recreation per day.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: tcrlaf

You know of course, that the leftist kooks insist that the Mossad sent Monica!


621 posted on 09/25/2006 11:26:43 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: mewzilla

Yeah why doesn't he want to address that huh? Great point.


622 posted on 09/25/2006 11:27:19 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: MaestroLC

Emperor Misha loses it on Clenis:
http://www.nicedoggie.net


623 posted on 09/25/2006 11:27:30 AM PDT by AliVeritas (The road to hell is paved with bishops - St. Athanasis)
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To: Txsleuth
Hey Floridians!


624 posted on 09/25/2006 11:27:32 AM PDT by hattend (Anytime you see a union building, think of it as a branch office of the Democratic Party. - Rush)
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To: TexasPatriot8
From salon.com...

Teammates: Allen used "N-word" in college

September 24, 2006 Sunday

Three former college football teammates of Sen. George Allen say that the Virginia Republican repeatedly used an inflammatory racial epithet and demonstrated racist attitudes toward blacks during the early 1970s.

"Allen said he came to Virginia because he wanted to play football in a place where 'blacks knew their place,'" said Dr. Ken Shelton, a white radiologist in North Carolina who played tight end for the University of Virginia football team when Allen was quarterback. "He used the N-word on a regular basis back then."

A second white teammate, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he feared retribution from the Allen campaign, separately claimed that Allen used the word "nigger" to describe blacks. "It was so common with George when he was among his white friends. This is the terminology he used," the teammate said.

A third white teammate contacted separately, who also spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of being attacked by the Virginia senator, said he too remembers Allen using the word "nigger," though he said he could not recall a specific conversation in which Allen used the term. "My impression of him was that he was a racist," the third teammate said.

Shelton also told Salon that the future senator gave him the nickname "Wizard," because he shared a last name with Robert Shelton, who served in the 1960s as the imperial wizard of the United Klans of America, a group affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan. The radiologist said he decided earlier this year that he would go public with his concerns about Allen if a reporter ever called. About four months ago, when he heard that Allen was a possible candidate for president in 2008, Shelton began to write down some of the negative memories of his former teammate. He provided Salon excerpts of those notes last week.

Over the past week, Salon has interviewed 19 former teammates and college friends of Allen from the University of Virginia. In addition to the three who said Allen used the word "nigger," two others who were contacted said they remember being bothered by Allen's displaying the Confederate flag in college, but said they do not remember him acting in an overtly racist manner. Seven others said they did not know Allen well outside the football team, but do not remember Allen demonstrating any racist feelings. A separate seven teammates and friends said they knew Allen well and did not believe he held racist views. "I don't believe he was insensitive," said Paul Ryczek, who played center in Allen's year before joining the Atlanta Falcons. "He had no prejudices, biases or anything else."

In the interviews, old teammates generally spoke of him highly, as a good friend, a bright and ambitious student, and a colorful character who embraced Southern culture, listened to country music, and attracted the nickname "Neck," as in redneck. "If a black guy dropped a pass, he would say something to him," said Gerard Mullins, who played defensive back in Allen's year. "If it was a white guy, same thing. It really didn't matter where you were from, who you were, or anything."

The three former teammates, however, painted a very different picture of Allen when he was around his white friends. Shelton said he feels a personal responsibility to tell what he knows about Allen's past, especially now that Allen has been mentioned as a possible presidential candidate. "I got to know Allen a little too well," Shelton said, adding that he does not believe Allen should hold elective office. "He had prejudices that were deep-seated."

Shelton said no political animosity has driven his decision to speak out. He has switched between Democratic and independent registration in recent elections, he said, and does not consider himself politically active. Four years ago, Shelton and his wife donated $1,000 to Sam Neill, the Democratic challenger to Rep. Charles Taylor, R-N.C., because Shelton said they knew Neill and were upset by the allegations of corruption against Taylor, who was reelected. In February, Shelton supported Rick Davis, a current Republican candidate for sheriff, and penned a letter to the editor in the Hendersonville Times-News backing Davis' campaign. Shelton says he does not know much about Allen's political ideology and says he hasn't spoken to him in about 30 years. "There are no personal grudges," Shelton said. "There was no falling out." Shelton played football with Allen in the 1972 and 1973 seasons, according to the team media guides from those years. Shelton remembers Allen's attitudes about race surfacing early in their relationship. At one point, Shelton says, Allen nicknamed him "Wizard," after United Klans imperial wizard Robert Shelton. "He asked me if I was related at all," Shelton remembers. "I knew of that name, and I said absolutely not." Several former teammates confirmed that Shelton's team nickname was "Wizard," though no one contacted by Salon could confirm firsthand knowledge of the handle's origin. "Everyone called me 'Wizard' that knows me from those days," said Shelton. "My nickname stuck."

Shelton said he also remembers a disturbing deer hunting trip with Allen on land that was owned by the family of Billy Lanahan, a wide receiver on the team. After they had killed a deer, Shelton said he remembers Allen asking Lanahan where the local black residents lived. Shelton said Allen then drove the three of them to that neighborhood with the severed head of the deer. "He proceeded to take the doe's head and stuff it into a mailbox," Shelton said.

625 posted on 09/25/2006 11:28:08 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: CollegeRepublicanNU
"Got in trouble in class today for listening to my Rush podcast on my iPod.... I thought it was more important than learning about literature... "

Like Mark Twain said, never let your schooling interfere with your education. :)
626 posted on 09/25/2006 11:28:12 AM PDT by Redgirl (Osama should send Rosie O'Donnell a thank-you note.)
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To: roses of sharon

I can't believe he did such a favor for the GOP with this interview. He thought he was so untouchable and so clean and lilly white and thinks that he can wag his finger at the country and we'll feel bad and believe him. He did that once and ever since then he will NEVER have any credibility ever again.


627 posted on 09/25/2006 11:28:24 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

CC, any idea how I can find all the presidential directives for 93? I can find most of the others.


628 posted on 09/25/2006 11:29:19 AM PDT by AliVeritas (The road to hell is paved with bishops - St. Athanasis)
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To: RasterMaster

That always sticks out in my head too. That tells me that Bush wanted to get serious and start killing terrorists and engage.


629 posted on 09/25/2006 11:29:27 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: RobFromGa; Howlin

As best I figure, EVERY Clinton war act had either an obvious wag-the-dog link (such as the murderous missile raid against a Sudanese pharmaceutical plant on the night before the day of the Monica's testimony) or some more indirect but suspicious timing. Howlin has posted an long (yet still incomplete list) recently.


630 posted on 09/25/2006 11:29:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: AliVeritas
More on Clinton and how security-minded he really was. From 2004...

The Bad Old Days

631 posted on 09/25/2006 11:30:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: hattend

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm


632 posted on 09/25/2006 11:30:28 AM PDT by AliVeritas (The road to hell is paved with bishops - St. Athanasis)
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To: AliVeritas
Murtha was screaming about Somalia in 93. Start there.
633 posted on 09/25/2006 11:30:33 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: TexasPatriot8

Rush is stating that Clinton is trying to not remind everyone about Monica. Darn thing is, wagging his finger simply reminded me that the last time he wagged that sucker around, he was lying through his teeth about Monica.


634 posted on 09/25/2006 11:30:39 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: Redgirl; All

Very good...

Clinton will have trouble in Iowa and I agree with Rush on that one.

Ann Coulter made a comment about this... Talking about how Iowa came down to a 3-way race between Clark, Dean and Kerry...

When Clinton was asked about it, he said he remembered his first Iowa 3way quite well...

Thought I would throw that out there just for some laughs on this Monday....


635 posted on 09/25/2006 11:30:56 AM PDT by CollegeRepublicanNU (I'm now 21 and legal for EVERYTHING.......)
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To: Txsleuth

I thought they were gonna vote on the fence early evening, is that put off now?


636 posted on 09/25/2006 11:31:53 AM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: AliVeritas

Try this.

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd/index.html


637 posted on 09/25/2006 11:32:48 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: RasterMaster

Excellent! The gutting of the Intelligence industry and miltiary by Clinton for eight years is always understated as a big reason 9-11 was allowed to happen. By the time CLinton was out of office, the overall budgets for the FBI and CIA and NSA when it came to gathering and analyzing intelligence was down 70% or more, and how could they protect the country with so little funding? THAT is a HUGE reason for 9-11 and Clinton made it happen to create his precious budget surplus PROJECTION that never even happened.


638 posted on 09/25/2006 11:33:13 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: RobFromGa
OIL REBOUNDS TO $62...
639 posted on 09/25/2006 11:33:24 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: hattend

Two big ugly reasons to hate it.


640 posted on 09/25/2006 11:33:51 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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