Posted on 09/25/2006 7:57:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1702290/posts?page=1
The Good Life At Gitmo
ON the military plane back from America's most fa mous terrorist holding pen, the in-flight film was "V for Vendetta," a screed that tries to justify terrorism. It was a fitting end to a surreal, military-sponsored trip.
The Pentagon seemed to be hoping to disarm its critics by showing them how well it cares for captured terrorists. The trip was more alarming than disarming. I spent several hours with Rear Adm. Harry B. Harris Jr., who heads the joint task force that houses and interrogates the detainees. (The military isn't allowed to call them "prisoners.")
Harris, a distinguished Navy veteran who was born in Japan and educated at Annapolis and Harvard, is a serious man trying to do a politically impossible job. I spoke with him at length, and with a dozen other officers and guards, and visited three different detention blocks.
The high-minded critics who complain about torture are wrong. We are far too soft on these guys - and, as a result, aren't getting the valuable intelligence we need to save American lives.
The politically correct regulations are unbelievable. Detainees are entitled to a full eight hours sleep and can't be woken up for interrogations. They enjoy three meals and five prayers per day, without interruption. They are entitled to a minimum of two hours of outdoor recreation per day.
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Inquiring minds want to know, Bubba.
That's just more stupidity. Saying that Richard Clarks book defends what he's saying, and it in no way does in any way shape or form. God Clinton is a stupid inbred moron!!! He knows he's the biggest screw up to ever become President and he was totally intellectually inadequate to the tasks required by the job, and the passage of time proves that out, and he can't handle that reality so he has to argue against it, which just draws more attention to it and prove even more strongly that he is a moron and did a horrible job as President.
snif.
Thanks Stone and congrats to you.
I wish FR was around when I was 21. Of course I was probably too thick to have been a FReeper then.
Happy B-day and many more to you!
Yep. Trotting this moron out right now is sure helping Dem's chances this electione! /s
Its the truth
You're right... same thought here.
Thank You
Yeah really. It's just amazing. The hatred the Democrats have shown to Leiberman since he said he would run as an Independent, hate directed to him as a Jew, and all the racial slurs people have made, Democrats and liberal media people. I don't know how any Jewish American can vote for Democrats given that. It's so disgusting. That's how it started in Nazi Germany. It always starts with words before actions. That sends chills up my spine.
your sweet. What is 41 the new 21?
50 is not old. When I turned 30 it sent me over the edge. But 40 and 50 were breezes... Fortunately I will not see 60 for another 8+ years.
I work in a small company, and about a month ago one of our guys turned 60. My boss sent everyone but him an email, letting us know that we should make a big fuss because it's such a milestone. I said to my boss "when I turn 60, you had better not do that to ME!" lol
IIRC that was quoted from the Byron York book.
As for Clinton being a liar........
I must admit that I'm really surprised at all the consternation over this "interview." The Clintoon finger wagging diatribe was known last week. This amounted to nothing more than a rebuttal of the "Path to 9/11." Wallace's show prep was shown to be lacking. How could he have expected anything other than what he got from that POS!
Yup
75 is the new 40;)
Yep. And more and more liberals just call ALL Conservatives Neo-Cons. If Chris Wallace had a brian at that moment he would have cit Clinton off and said "Wait a minute, who are these "Neo-Cons", name some names, not some vague name calling". Put Clinton on the spot and make him name some names or shut up.
YES
"CLINTON LET BIN LADEN SLIP AWAY AND METASTASIZE" BY MANSOOR IJAZ
by Mansoor Ijaz LOS ANGELES TIMES December 5, 2001
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
* Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president and his advisors didn't respond President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.
The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.
As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster.
Realizing the growing problem with Bin Laden, Bashir sent key intelligence officials to the U.S. in February 1996.
The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia or, barring that, to "baby-sit" him--monitoring all his activities and associates.
But Saudi officials didn't want their home-grown terrorist back where he might plot to overthrow them.
In May 1996, the Sudanese capitulated to U.S. pressure and asked Bin Laden to leave, despite their feeling that he could be monitored better in Sudan than elsewhere.
Bin Laden left for Afghanistan, taking with him Ayman Zawahiri, considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks; Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, who traveled frequently to Germany to obtain electronic equipment for Al Qaeda; Wadih El-Hage, Bin Laden's personal secretary and roving emissary, now serving a life sentence in the U.S. for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya; and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saif Adel, also accused of carrying out the embassy attacks.
Some of these men are now among the FBI's 22 most-wanted terrorists.
The two men who allegedly piloted the planes into the twin towers, Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, prayed in the same Hamburg mosque as did Salim and Mamoun Darkazanli, a Syrian trader who managed Salim's bank accounts and whose assets are frozen.
Important data on each had been compiled by the Sudanese.
But U.S. authorities repeatedly turned the data away, first in February 1996; then again that August, when at my suggestion Sudan's religious ideologue, Hassan Turabi, wrote directly to Clinton; then again in April 1997, when I persuaded Bashir to invite the FBI to come to Sudan and view the data; and finally in February 1998, when Sudan's intelligence chief, Gutbi al-Mahdi, wrote directly to the FBI.
Gutbi had shown me some of Sudan's data during a three-hour meeting in Khartoum in October 1996. When I returned to Washington, I told Berger and his specialist for East Africa, Susan Rice, about the data available. They said they'd get back to me. They never did. Neither did they respond when Bashir made the offer directly. I believe they never had any intention to engage Muslim countries--ally or not. Radical Islam, for the administration, was a convenient national security threat.
And that was not the end of it. In July 2000--three months before the deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen--I brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with Bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings. A senior counter-terrorism official from one of the United States' closest Arab allies--an ally whose name I am not free to divulge--approached me with the proposal after telling me he was fed up with the antics and arrogance of U.S. counter-terrorism officials.
The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as the first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver him to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there to personally request Bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.
Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.
100% accurate. The only inaccurate thing about that image is that he's wearing, partially, a suit. He rarely ever even showed the office the respect of wearing a suit, he usually wore sweaters and pull over shirts. Total disrespect for the office.
Here are some links to the Somalia debacle....It is from PBS, but still worth the read.
I did a short search of some background stuff on it.
This was good..Richard Lugar on Somalia: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ambush/interviews/lugar.html
This was the Ambassador to Somalia: Real eye opener http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ambush/interviews/oakley.html
Here is a reminder that it was Murtha that convinced Clinton to withdraw: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/21/100353.shtml
Here is another link to documents by Al-Queda crowing about the success in Somalia: http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2006/02/what_newly_released_al_qaeda_l_1.html
This is the overview page where most of the interviews came from. It also has a time line. (Just to refresh everyone's memory.)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ambush/
And boom. Facts say it all. It's just that simple.
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