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Has the bubble burst?
News and Review ^ | Sep 21 06 | Sasha Abramsky

Posted on 09/22/2006 8:47:25 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: dighton
I blame it on US imperialist aggression against the peaceful nation of Iraq and its firm but fair leader.

Yer dang right, Comrade! Not to mention the iron boot of oppression crushing the necks of the proletariat. But our turn will come, oh, yes it will, and when the Revolution arrives the bloodsucking capitalists will be stood up agains the wall and SHOT!

Wait a minute, which forum is this? Uh, hey, folks, just kidding...heh heh...

An interest-only ARM is today's counterpart to the sort of speculation that sent people jumping out of windows in 1929. I hate to sound heartless, but the last tier in a Ponzi scheme always ends up broke and the first tier walks away with their money. And the first tier is always smaller.

Real estate is still a great investment if you are patient and build equity. If you treat it like a get-rich-quick scam it will treat you like a mark.

61 posted on 09/22/2006 9:16:59 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Petronski

I didn't say the government should berequired to do anything. I just don't respect these lenders, and don't think they're completely ethical.


62 posted on 09/22/2006 9:17:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: churchillbuff
If there's an obviously stupid thing to do (take out an ARM rather than a low fixed rate when fixed rates were astonishingly low), and it's legal to do so, someone will do it. That's just a fact of life. You see it all around. Some people speed around tight turns and then fly off cliffs, others manage to get lost in the woods in public parks and die - it happens.

So the reporters went out and found such a couple who didn't know what they were doing when any even slightly savvy person could have set them straight. Ho hum. So, sell the house and move on wiser by the experience. This isn't some massive societal failing, just some people who made an obvious financial mistake - like buying an Internet stock in 1999.

63 posted on 09/22/2006 9:17:22 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Billthedrill

What the marks don't realize is that the Ponzi Scheme is an inverted pyramid, destined to topple.


64 posted on 09/22/2006 9:18:32 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: churchillbuff
That fear explains why they readily listed their house for $21,000 less than its appraised value of $300,000.

in the end, they borrowed $260,000--$16,000 more than the initial cost of the house-

I forget.. the point of this story is..what ?
65 posted on 09/22/2006 9:18:43 PM PDT by stylin19a (I'm not just long, I'm Lama long !)
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To: churchillbuff; onyx; Howlin; Petronski

Another weekend...another stupid article from Chamberlaintroll....


66 posted on 09/22/2006 9:19:02 PM PDT by MikefromOhio ("...America has confronted evil before, and we have defeated it...")
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To: Howlin

Hell, that's all churchill bluff posts.


67 posted on 09/22/2006 9:19:36 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: nickcarraway

And as I said, the borrowers were given PLENTY of documentation of what they were doing.


68 posted on 09/22/2006 9:20:19 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: churchillbuff
its appraised value of $300,000.

If it still appraises at $300,000...ever hear the term "refinance?" If you've been paying everything on time they ought to at least get a fixed rate that has a payment close to where it was before going up, *maybe* even lower when you factor combining both loans together.

69 posted on 09/22/2006 9:20:56 PM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Petronski
One thing about this article that's indisputable: there's never been a more ideal moment to add GOLD to your portfolio...

Yup. Buy high and sell low!

Now is NOT the time to buy gold, silver or most housing. I bought silver at $4 and change. I'll be selling a few hundred ounces very soon. When it goes back DOWN, I will buy more.

Only a moron would expect the housing market to rise rapidly at this time.

70 posted on 09/22/2006 9:20:57 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Petronski; Howlin

The missus and I took out a 30 year mortage and, by declaring it our enemy, paid it off in full in 15 years. We're debt-free because we don't treat credit as free money. Think we'll get written up in the Times?


71 posted on 09/22/2006 9:21:13 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: churchillbuff

Yes, there are; some even post to FR. ;^)


72 posted on 09/22/2006 9:21:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Poser

Yes, well, that was a bit of humor about the immutable bullishness of the goldbug.


73 posted on 09/22/2006 9:21:53 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: churchillbuff
"...might be facing a perfect storm in which the true losers are families who borrowed cavalierly without adequately crunching the numbers."

That's life. Get over it.

74 posted on 09/22/2006 9:21:58 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Petronski

ROTFLMAOPIMP


75 posted on 09/22/2006 9:22:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: RedRover

Hardly! You're B O R I N G L Y normal!


76 posted on 09/22/2006 9:22:32 PM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: nopardons
Some people are incredibly stupid...Bush's fault.
77 posted on 09/22/2006 9:22:41 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: RedRover

And responsible!


78 posted on 09/22/2006 9:22:45 PM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: churchillbuff

Is there a difference between a "crash" and a gradual downturn? The media loves to call things "crashes," but it doesn't mean it's justified. I live in an area with extremely high-priced real estate. The market is not as robust as it was a year ago, but I would hardly describe it as disastrous.


79 posted on 09/22/2006 9:23:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Petronski

Are you a stock person?


80 posted on 09/22/2006 9:23:26 PM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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