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1 posted on 09/22/2006 8:18:13 AM PDT by NYer
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The controversial silences of Pius XII with Nazism, and later, with Communism, of John XXIII, of Vatican Council II, and of the Ostpolitik of Paul VI, had compelling reasons, and in the first place the defense of the victims of those systems themselves. But now, it is being demanded of Benedict XVI that he maintain a similar silence in regard to the new adversary of Islam: it is a silence that is often given the name of “dialogue.”

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2 posted on 09/22/2006 8:19:53 AM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
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I believe Bendict knew that the visions of his predecessor kissing the koran were still dancing in the heads of the faithful.


3 posted on 09/22/2006 8:22:56 AM PDT by bennyjakobowski (Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?)
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7 posted on 09/22/2006 8:35:29 AM PDT by Gritty (If one can only convert to but not from Islam, it is a threat to every free person on Earth-M Steyn)
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"But the voices in the Muslim world that are accepting his offer of dialogue are too weak and too few, and almost not to be found"

Not really true, they are actually in the majority. But most are afraid of speaking out for fear of winding up like Nick Berg. Muslim extremism is all about power and intimidation. It has nothing to do with Islam, it is all about mind and physical control. These people use Islam as a means to an end to carry out their insane, murderous agendas.

In this country, all we see in the news (regardless of the source) are the extremists. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. We don't see day to day life for average people. In my experience after two tours over there, most of the people I met in Iraq, Kuwait and Qatar were no different than any of us here in the US; they're just trying to get by day to day and provide for their families. On our way to work, we worry about being late or getting a ticket. They worry about getting shot or blown up. The majority of the American public has no idea whatsoever what life is really like over there, we only know what we see and read. You have to experience it to really know.
13 posted on 09/22/2006 8:56:44 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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bump.


14 posted on 09/22/2006 8:57:15 AM PDT by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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Cardinal Camillo Ruini, who has grasped the essence of this pontificate better than other Church leaders have done, said on Monday, September 18 to the directive body of the Italian bishops that “the fundamental coordinates” of the message Benedict XVI is proposing to the Church and the world are found in these three texts: the encyclical “Deus Caritas Est”; the address to the Roman curia on December 22, 2005, on the interpretation of Vatican Council II; and, last but not least, the “splendid” lecture in Regensburg.

Italian Prelates Speak Up for Pope

ROME, SEPT. 20, 2006 (Zenit.org).- In the wake of controversy over Benedict XVI's mention of Islam in a university lecture, Italy's bishops expressed support for the Pope and deplored the campaign of criticisms against him.

Cardinal Camillo Ruini, the vicar of Rome, voiced that support Monday during the opening session of the Permanent Council of the Italian bishops' conference.

The cardinal vicar warmly greeted the Holy Father, recalling that on his recent apostolic visit to Bavaria the German Pope witnessed "with extraordinary depth of reflection and with persuasive gentleness, faith in that God in whom man, his reason and freedom find their higher and authentic fulfillment."

Cardinal Ruini, president of the bishops' conference, continued: "In the splendid lesson at the University of Regensburg not only was he able to propose but to argue the truth, validity and timeliness of Christianity across a great theological fresco, at once historical and philosophical, capable of having the essential nexus emerge between human reason and faith in God who is 'Logos,' showing that this nexus is not confined to the past but opens great perspectives today to our desire to know and live a full and free life."

Distress

The cardinal underlined that this lesson, together with the encyclical "Deus Caritas Est" and Benedict XVI's address to the Roman Curia last Dec. 22, offer "the essential coordinates of the Pope's message which must be meditated and assimilated in depth, now in the context of the national ecclesial congress that awaits us in Verona."

In regard to intolerant reactions to Benedict XVI's address in Regensburg, Cardinal Ruini said that there was "surprise and distress" that "some affirmations made in it were mistaken to the point of being interpreted as an offense against the Islamic religion and of leading to intimidating acts and indescribable threats -- perhaps even to providing the pretext for the abominable killing of Sister Leonella Sgobarti in Mogadishu."

The Pope, in fact, was proposing the fostering of "a true dialogue of cultures and religions, a dialogue of which we are in such urgent need," as stated in the papal address itself, and as the Vatican secretary of state specified in a statement last Saturday.

"Insofar as the Italian bishops are concerned," Cardinal Ruini, 75, said, "we express to the Pope our total closeness and solidarity and intensify our prayer for him, for the Church, for our religious liberty, for dialogue and friendship among religions and peoples."

He added: "We deplore instead those interpretations, which are not lacking also in our country, which attribute to the Holy Father responsibilities which he absolutely does not have or errors he has not committed and which tend to attack his person and his ministry."

15 posted on 09/22/2006 9:06:16 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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"Papa's got a brand new bag!"


19 posted on 09/22/2006 12:17:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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