[Killborn]

When's the Constitutional Amendment where we decided to become a Third World "Democracy"?

Oh yeah, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

Section III Article III their @$$.

[Cacique]

Looks like Chavez has been to California.

[GOP_Raider]

The brainstorm behind Dr. Koza’s effort, led by a seven-month-old group, National Popular Vote, was to abandon that approach and focus on creating interstate compacts new ways for Democrats to steal elections.

[Tzimisce]

Sounds awful to me...

[Zetman]

“More important,’’ he said, “is changing the way presidential campaigns are conducted in this country. Now, the candidates spend almost all of their time in a handful of battleground states like Ohio and Florida and ignore the rest of the country. This would force candidates to campaign nationally for every vote.”

Sounds like "bull" to me. Who actually believes this stuff?? I would like to see a breakdown of where the greatest concentration of 50% of the U.S. population lives. I would suspect that it is in big cities, and if we started with the most populous big city, and worked our way down the list, I'll bet we wouldn't have to go too far until we had accounted for 50% of the U.S. population.

This means we would have the same problem that he describes above, only now condidates would campaign within a relatively small handful of large population centers, and ignore the rest of the country. Most states would probably never see a candidate, and even states like California would only see candidates campaigning in their big cities.

Furthermore, how do big cities tend to vote?? I would not be surprised to learn that the populations of big cities tend to vote more to the left than to the right. It seems that there is something about living in big cities that does something to people's collective IQ's.

This seems to be specifically designed to ensure more victories for liberals, and that Conservatives are shut out and marginalized. The fact that some RINO's are supporting it is meaningless window dressing. The "problems" described in the article could be made worse (unless your name is Al Gore). I hope that intelligent people stand up and put a stop to this.

[bahblahbah]

"Dr. Koza’s compact, if approved by enough legislatures, would commit a state’s electors to vote for the candidate who wins the most national votes, even if the candidate loses in that state."

Article 1 Section 10
"No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."

It's not going to happen, as you have to get congressional approval if there is compact between states. Regardless, if Schwarzenegger signs this, then I will quit the Republican party and become an anarchist.

[Exton1]

Dr. John R. Koza
Third Millennium Venture Capital Limited
Box 1123
Los Altos, California 94023 USA
FAX: 650-941-9430
URL at Stanford University: http://www.smi.stanford.edu/people/koza/
E-Mail at Stanford University: koza@stanford.edu

[highlander_UW]

The first fruit of his effort, a bill approved by the California legislature that would allocate the state’s 55 electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, sits on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s desk. The governor has to decide by Sept. 30 whether to sign it ...

In the last election that would have thrown all of CA's electoral votes to Bush.

Although, if I were a Californian I wouldn't appreciate my vote being taken away and given to the residents in every other state.

[Lancer_N3502A]

These commie rat bastards will continue to subvert the Constitution until it becomes meaningless; or until the rest of us stop them.

[MissouriConservative]

There is so much to comment upon....sheesh...where to start?

"He has concocted a plan for states to skirt the Electoral College system legally to insure the election of whichever presidential candidate receives the most votes nationwide."

Starts off wrong to begin with. It is not "legal" for states to enter into compacts with each other without the consent of Congress. This isn't going to happen anytime soon. Next, "skirting" the Constitution is not legal to begin with. You either follow it or you don't...no grey area here.

"“The bottom line is that the system has outlived its usefulness,” said Assemblyman Thomas J. Umberg, the Anaheim Democrat who sponsored the bill here. “It’s past time that Americans should elect their president by direct vote of the people.”"

Yeah, that direct election sure worked for Senators huh? One of the worst things done was allow for direct election of Senators. This took the last link to state's power away. Congress was meant to be kept in check by a House elected by the people and a Senate elected by State legislators. This meant that States had some say in the federal government as well as the people. It was a perfect system. Then direct election and WHAM....states became the lackeys of the feds...."no more highway money until you bend over and grab your ankles in front of the federal gods." It went from the United States of America to the United State of America.

Now they want to take away the power of the small states and the less populace states and give it to the urbanites and a few enclaves of liberals who tend to congregate like rats. This man should be hung for treasonous ideals.

[Crazieman]

Here be the end of the United States, a name that is unfortunately lost on people these days.

The Centralized Democracy of America doesn't quite have that ring to it.

[bjcintennessee]

The electoral college was designed to prevent the more densely populated areas from controlling the entire country. The last thing we need is for New York and L.A., et.al to determine who our leaders will be!

[metesky]

U.S. Constitution
Article I
Section 10
Paragraph 3:

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

[goldstategop]

I want the Governor to sign it. The Democrats will repeal it if California's electoral votes go to a Republican nationwide winner instead of the Democratic presidential candidate statewide winner. The Left can be too smart for their own good. Now let's hoist them on their scheme to make Electoral College votes go the popular vote winner in a national election.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[BlessedBeGod]

So, they want to turn our republic into a democracy?

Don't tell me -- they vote Democrat.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

The bottom line is that this would require a constitutional amendment. The professor is obviously a marxist.

[Jim Noble]

He has concocted a plan for states to skirt the Electoral College system legally to insure the election of whichever presidential candidate receives the most votes nationwide. The first fruit of his effort, a bill approved by the California legislature that would allocate the state’s 55 electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, sits on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s desk. The governor has to decide by Sept. 30 whether to sign it ...

Not only is it not legal, it's also unConstitutional.

[Edit35]

If millions of third worlders (Mexico, Cosa Rica, Ecuador, Guatamala, etc) flood the Southwest US, and vote overwhelmingly for their "pet" candidate, one who happens to be a danger to America, our national electoral process would be in great jeopardy.

THAT's why the Founding Father's ELECTORAL COLLEGE was so brilliant in its concept and implementation.

It is designed to prevent exactly the thing which I see happening with the ongoing invasion of ONE ethnic culture to ONE geographic area of the USA.

[calex59]

This would only go into effect if ALL states change the way they assign electoral votes. Even then each state could assign electoral votes however they want. Arnold should not buy into this crap even though it would benefit the Republicans right now, in 2000 we would have lost to Al Gore(shudder)if this was implemented nation wide.

[Non-Sequitur]

As if the people in California didn't have enough excuses not to vote here comes another one.