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N.J. court tells police limits on car searches don't apply to homes
Star-Ledger Staff ^
| Thursday, September 21, 2006
| BY ROBERT SCHWANEBERG
Posted on 09/21/2006 3:53:20 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
In New Jersey, one's home is not one's castle after all. The real castle, it turns out, is the car.
The New Jersey Supreme Court ruled 4-3 yesterday that police do not need a reason to ask permission to search someone's home.
The same court four years ago issued rules saying police must have a good reason before asking motorists if they can search their cars.
Yesterday the court said the rules for cars -- which prohibit police from asking motorists if they can conduct a search unless they have "a reasonable and articulable suspicion" of criminal activity -- are designed specifically to combat racial profiling on the state's highways and do not apply to searches of homes.
(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...
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To: meyer
I'll refrain from stating the obvious as to who is working for whom.Why don't you state it, since I have no idea what you are talking about.
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posted on
09/23/2006 8:44:17 AM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
To: Myrddin
My wife works for the police department. I step outside so we can talk
Well, if your wife works for the PD, why are you the one stepping outside to talk?
142
posted on
09/23/2006 8:49:09 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: P-Marlowe
Why don't you state it, since I have no idea what you are talking about.Here's a hint - One party is a taxpayer, and one is a public servant. Does that give you any clue as to who employs whom?
143
posted on
09/23/2006 10:39:18 AM PDT
by
meyer
(A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
To: oh8eleven
Well, if your wife works for the PD, why are you the one stepping outside to talk?So my Rat Terriers don't shred an unfamiliar visitor.
144
posted on
09/23/2006 3:04:10 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Jaysun
A Supreme Ct. ruling in 1989 states that there must be probable cause to search. Nowadays....no problem... they concoct a probable cause, more times than not. I've seen it happen on a weekly basis, usually with teenagers. Lately, law enforcements pursuit of the "almighty dollar" has totally turned my stomach and lessened my respect for them.
145
posted on
09/23/2006 3:40:50 PM PDT
by
alice_in_bubbaland
(Islam is the Death Cult of Perpetual Outrage!)
To: Focault's Pendulum
Folks, it is New Jersey!
Anything can happen in Jersey!
146
posted on
09/23/2006 9:39:53 PM PDT
by
JOE6PAK
(Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me,for me-for meeeeeee!)
To: DelphiUser
"... (dons asbestos underwear) ..." Why are you wearing Don's underwear? Is that a brand name like Calvin Klein? Is it more comfortable?
147
posted on
09/24/2006 2:25:58 PM PDT
by
NicknamedBob
(If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
To: NicknamedBob
>>Why are you wearing Don's underwear? Is that a brand name like Calvin Klein? Is it more comfortable?
You havent heard of Dons Asbestos under wear? Dons is the most comfortable underwear you can be wearing, just after you say something incendiary on a thread like this where emotions run high. CKs can get a little warm.
Remember, when the going gets tough, the smart go fishing.
(Any resemblance to humor in this post is entirely intentional)
148
posted on
09/24/2006 5:00:31 PM PDT
by
DelphiUser
("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
To: Focault's Pendulum
So how would be applied to motor homes if it was your primary residence?
149
posted on
09/24/2006 5:04:16 PM PDT
by
ThomasThomas
(I did use spell check!)
To: DelphiUser
"Dons is the most comfortable underwear you can be wearing, just after you say something incendiary on a thread like this ..." Not only that, but it's like "Head-On"TM, the name describes the application process.
"What are you s'posed to do with this?"
*Don's*
"Oh! Never mind ..."
150
posted on
09/24/2006 5:11:56 PM PDT
by
NicknamedBob
(If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
To: DelphiUser
By the way, if you want your home to be your castle ... build a castle.
151
posted on
09/24/2006 5:13:07 PM PDT
by
NicknamedBob
(If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
To: spudsmaki
Very good video. If the people in this country were as protective of their rights, bad laws like the Real ID Act would been put to the ash heap and not even being signed into law. We do need to elect people who not only favor economic freedom but also our civil rights. Without civil rights, our economic well being is subject to the whim of some official who might want to take it away.
To: j. earl carter
Almost always, the police take all of the stuff out of the vehicle, leave it lying all over the parking lot, and then get back in their vehicles and drive off; leaving an innocent motorist to spend the next 20 or 30 minutes picking up all of his stuff and putting it back in the trunk. I have found the solution to this. I have an old ammo can that I keep filled with old, greasy car parts wrapped up in greasy rags. When they go to search (an ammo can!) they get grease all over their pretty uniforms.
The drug dog always indicates that drugs are present in the vehicle.
This may, or may not, be intentional. Mrs. Knitebane is a dog trainer. It's amazing how dogs, especially highly trained dogs, become attuned to their handlers wishes. Long story short, if the cop wants the dog to trigger, they will.
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posted on
09/25/2006 12:37:49 AM PDT
by
Knitebane
(Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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