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Amid spying scandal, HP sponsors award for `privacy innovation'
ap on Riverside Press Enterprise ^ | 9/21/06 | Brian Bergstein - ap

Posted on 09/21/2006 2:00:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

BOSTON

Insert your own punch line: Hewlett-Packard Co., the technology company facing federal and state investigations for spying on board members and journalists, is co-sponsor of an award for "privacy innovation."

Nominees are currently being accepted for the fourth annual HP/IAPP Privacy Innovation award, which Hewlett-Packard gives in conjunction with the Maine-based International Association of Privacy Professionals.

According to the award's Web site, the prize was created to honor "strong and unique contributions to the privacy industry."

"At present, there is not sufficient recognition for organizations that have embraced privacy as a competitive advantage, and as a business/governmental imperative," the site states.

Previous winners of the award have included eBay Inc., Microsoft Corp., Sprint Nextel Corp. and two Canadian provincial offices. No one from HP is a judge.

Two IAPP directors did not immediately return a call seeking comment Thursday, nor did an HP spokesman.

HP is facing multiple investigations into the company's surveillance of directors, employees and journalists as it sought the source of boardroom leaks to the media. HP investigators posed as other people to obtain their phone records and sent at least one reporter monitoring "spyware" in an e-mail.

An HP director quit in protest of the methods and another resigned after being outed as a leaker. Questions about HP's methods led the board chair, Patricia Dunn, to agree to cede the post in January, though she plans to remain a director.

One place to read about all this is none other the Privacy Innovation award's Web site. It contains a long list of privacy-related stories in the news, including the HP affair.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: award; hewlettpackard; innovation; privacy; spyingscandal

1 posted on 09/21/2006 2:00:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

On the Net:

http://www.privacyinnovation.org/about.html


2 posted on 09/21/2006 2:01:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Anything HP wants to do in their buildings or with their equipment to find who is leaking in espionage is alright with me.
You have privacy in your home, not at the work of you boss and don't expect it IMO.


3 posted on 09/21/2006 2:03:38 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The award would have meant something in the days when HP was the pinnacle of ethics, the place everybody wanted to work.

Now it's like getting and award in records confidientiality from Hillary.


4 posted on 09/21/2006 2:05:29 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: A CA Guy; NormsRevenge
I agree with your statement about doing what they want in their buildings with their equipment.

Do you think is would also be okay for them to monitor employees who are watching porn while in HP buildings with HP equipment?

5 posted on 09/21/2006 2:08:06 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (God is my confidence.)
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To: A CA Guy

The problem is, they went far outside of physical company properties as part of the "investigation",, or so it sounds.


6 posted on 09/21/2006 2:09:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: A CA Guy
"You have privacy in your home, not at the work of you boss and don't expect it IMO."

So then it bothers you that HP used fraud to get phone personal phone records of their board members and employees, journalists and spouses of all of the above?

And it also bothers you that they had private investigators following several of the above and sent a Trojan horse to one journalist that contained a key logger?
7 posted on 09/21/2006 2:10:13 PM PDT by Moral Hazard (The "missing links" in evolution are nothing compared to the extraneous links in intelligent design.)
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To: suzyjaruki
Do you think is would also be okay for them to monitor employees who are watching porn while in HP buildings with HP equipment?

I know of employers who fired some of their women employees for just that. They were hired to work and be good representatives of the company, not to look up porn while at work.

Bottom line is there is home time and work time. Consider work time to not be private and to be a time to do what you are paid for, not to do any private thing beyond taking emergency private calls when needed IMO.

8 posted on 09/21/2006 2:12:07 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Moral Hazard

If calls are made FROM HP offices or with phones or phone lines paid for with HP money, then no.

If these home lines were paid for with HP money directly to work out of that home, then those records are fair game, if they were private lines, then that is of course against the law.

Seems HP had major espionage going on way up in the ranks though and got desperate.
I think they should have used outside of work what ever legal private investigative means they legally could have and nothing more.

As you say, they enter the illegal side of the line in going after privately held lines of participating in fraud to get information illegally. ILLEGAL is not good, I agree with you.


9 posted on 09/21/2006 2:16:30 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
You're a tough guy.*smile*

Wasn't there a recent survey about how much time is wasted at work? Do you suppose HP and others would probably make a lot of money up by monitoring employees and firing time wasters or even prosecuting those who are looking at porn.

10 posted on 09/21/2006 2:17:53 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (God is my confidence.)
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To: NormsRevenge

If they tapped any lines that HP paid for they may be OK, if they were private lines they did not pay the bill for that gets to be illegal fast.

More needs to be revealed before we can judge IMO.

WHO WERE THEY LEAKING TO?
Who was willingly stealing form HP by the way?


11 posted on 09/21/2006 2:18:25 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Judge first, ask questions later.

;-)


12 posted on 09/21/2006 2:21:18 PM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: suzyjaruki
Yes, there was a study about wasted time and it probably talked about all the porn as well.

I laughed one time reading on a site like Drudge what the highest visited websites were. It went something like:

Porn
Porn
Porn
Porn
Porn
Porn
MySpace
Porn
Porn
Porn
13 posted on 09/21/2006 2:22:00 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Betis70
I do wish the companies receiving the leaks were as much out here in the public as HP is.
14 posted on 09/21/2006 2:22:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I agree, need to wait and see if there is any there there..

At this point, I'm not sure if any actual "stealing" outside of info re: inside corporate meetings, topics, and direction of company occurred , ...

In this case, it seems the methods used are more in question, and not so much the motive to determine where leaks might be inside the power ring.


15 posted on 09/21/2006 2:33:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

If administration is being also paid by competitors to participate in espionage, that should be made known in this case as well.

If someone was slitting their wrists, they may have felt desperate measures were required.

We'll have to see what unfolds...


16 posted on 09/21/2006 2:38:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Desperate Measures

an HP courtroom melodrama coming soon

to the WB network this fall :-)


17 posted on 09/21/2006 2:42:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: suzyjaruki

If it's a COMPANY computer, on COMPANY time, in a COMPANY building.....they can monitor all they want.....this is OLD news......when I was in HR at Sequent Computers in 1989 we were dealing with this.....sheesh.


18 posted on 09/21/2006 2:43:42 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: NormsRevenge

The reporter leads the reader - by the nose - by using the words 'spying'. The leaker was the hostile party.


19 posted on 09/21/2006 3:23:16 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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