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A Psychiatrist Is Slain, and a Sad Debate Deepens
NY Times ^ | September 19, 2006 | BENEDICT CAREY

Posted on 09/20/2006 8:28:56 PM PDT by neverdem

In the hour before he was killed, on Sunday, Sept. 3, Dr. Wayne S. Fenton, a prominent schizophrenia specialist, was helping his wife clear the gutters of their suburban Washington house. He was steadying the ladder, asking her to please stop showering debris on his clean shirt; he had just made an appointment to see a patient and wanted to look presentable. She said she would be happy to go along, to help control the patient.

It was a running joke between them. For in this part of the country, Dr. Fenton was the therapist of last resort, the one who could settle down and get through to the most severely psychotic, resistant patients, seemingly by sheer force of sympathy and good will. An associate director at the National Institute of Mental Health, he met with patients on weekends, sometimes late at night, at all hours.

“Absolutely the most nonthreatening person you ever, ever met,” his wife, Nancy Fenton, said in an interview last week.

At 4:52 p.m. that Sunday, the Montgomery County police found the 53-year-old psychiatrist dead in his small office, a few minutes’ drive from his house. They soon tracked down the patient he had agreed to meet that afternoon, Vitali A. Davydov, 19, of North Potomac, who admitted he had beaten the doctor with his fists, according to charging documents. When the young man left the office, “Dr. Fenton was on the ground, bleeding from the face,” the documents said.

Dr. Fenton had known that the patient presented some risk: he was young, male, severely psychotic and struggling with a mental state that was frightening and unfamiliar. The psychiatrist was trying to persuade his patient to continue taking medication, Mrs. Fenton said.

The killing, besides devastating the two families involved, has deeply shaken mental health workers...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: attemptedmurders; civilrights; mentalhealth; murders; nimh; psychiatrists; psychiatry; schizophrenia
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1 posted on 09/20/2006 8:28:59 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Scientologists (& Islamofascists) everywhere cheer this profound tragedy.

Dr. Fenton was, by all accounts, a great human being.

2 posted on 09/20/2006 8:35:16 PM PDT by dodger
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To: neverdem
Many people with schizophrenia are withdrawn

Except when they are taking their meds and then sometimes that makes them paranoid. I know someone who is dealing with this disease now. They are having a very hard time. But, he/she is the most kind hearted person that you would ever want to meet. He/she finds it difficult to ride an elevator without freaking out.

3 posted on 09/20/2006 8:39:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: neverdem

If he was that unstable, what we're his family or keeper's thinking letting him out in public alone and able to go off the deep end, as he did, at a moment's notice.


4 posted on 09/20/2006 8:40:49 PM PDT by AmeriBrit ( Doing the work for the good of the nation the MSM won't do!)
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To: neverdem

You know, I wouldn't accept a leading paragraph like that in a novel, much less in a serious news piece.


5 posted on 09/20/2006 8:44:47 PM PDT by ClaudiusI
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To: ClaudiusI

"It was a dark and stormy night..."


6 posted on 09/20/2006 8:46:31 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: AmeriBrit

Well, because until an individual has either been committed to an institution for their mental illness or has committed a crime there is no legal basis to detain them. That may be the case here.


7 posted on 09/20/2006 8:47:56 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: AmeriBrit
If he was that unstable, what we're his family or keeper's thinking letting him out in public alone and able to go off the deep end, as he did, at a moment's notice.

In Monky County it's nearly impossible to keep even the most dangerous schizophrenic locked up. Some friends of mine are dealing with this tragic problem in their family. Their grown son has tried to kill his sweet mother and little sister, but there is no legal way to force him to stay locked up. The law is an ass.

8 posted on 09/20/2006 8:48:30 PM PDT by Fairview
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To: ClaudiusI
>"You know, I wouldn't accept a leading paragraph like that in a novel, much less in a serious news piece.

Or from a dyed in the wool lib traitor named Benedict no less!

9 posted on 09/20/2006 8:49:23 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (If a monkey bangs away at a typewriter twice a week for ten years it could write an M. Dowd column.)
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To: ClaudiusI
You know, I wouldn't accept a leading paragraph like that in a novel, much less in a serious news piece.

It isn't a "serious news piece." It is labeled an essay, and I think the lede works well for this story.
10 posted on 09/20/2006 8:49:25 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: neverdem
... about the dangers of allowing patients with severe psychosis to go without medication...the problem is that no one wants to "allow" patients to go without medication - but many of them don't want to take that medication once out in the community and feeling more in control because of their meds - they decide to stop taking them on their own - with the continuing push for further "deinstitutionalization" of mental patients and the unfortunate trend toward fewer community resources like well-staffed crisis evaluation centers, where the young man in this story should have been seen, the problem will get worse......
11 posted on 09/20/2006 8:54:16 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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12 posted on 09/20/2006 8:54:38 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: phoenix0468; AmeriBrit

and, getting someone "committeed" usually means they have to have "committed a crime."


13 posted on 09/20/2006 9:22:18 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: ClaudiusI

You gotta understand- he was such a great psychologist, he got his wife to climb the ladder and clean out the gutters while he held the ladder, all dressed up. Must be some kind of gestalt thing.


14 posted on 09/20/2006 9:24:07 PM PDT by fat city ("Journalists are sloppy, lazy and on expense account")
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To: goodnesswins

No actually not. An individual who displays a propensity for violence doesn't have to have committed any crime. I am not sure how difficult it would be to commit someone, but a psychiatrist can do it without having to prove any history of violence.


15 posted on 09/20/2006 9:36:11 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: neverdem

I guess anytime you start pokin around in someone's head, there are good things you might find there and dangerous things... very dangerous... as well.

It is a sad incident, though. I will never understand societies obsession/expectation with being totally safe no matter what they do. I see the car crash tests and think "Well, that's nice, but it's way better if you don't smash into something at 75 miles an hour in the first place."


16 posted on 09/20/2006 9:42:02 PM PDT by djf (Some people say we evolved. I say "Some did, some didn't!")
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To: phoenix0468

Well, that wasn't the case with a relative of mine back around 1987 in WA State......I was told BY a psychiatrist that she would have to have harmed someone BEFORE she could be committed.


17 posted on 09/20/2006 10:34:37 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: neverdem

Pepper foam.


18 posted on 09/20/2006 11:24:57 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: phoenix0468
No actually not. An individual who displays a propensity for violence doesn't have to have committed any crime. I am not sure how difficult it would be to commit someone, but a psychiatrist can do it without having to prove any history of violence.

While I was a resident physician, in New York, it was called 2PC, as in 2 Physicians were needed to recommend Commitment, the patients being deemed a physical threat to themselves or others.

19 posted on 09/21/2006 12:23:10 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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You gotta understand- he was such a great psychologist, he got his wife to climb the ladder and clean out the gutters while he held the ladder, all dressed up. Must be some kind of gestalt thing.

Well, it would explain the shower of debris on his clean shirt.

20 posted on 09/21/2006 12:31:17 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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