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Al-Turki Episode Makes Saudis Think Twice Before Sending Children to US
Arab News ^ | 20 sep 06 | Saleh Fareed

Posted on 09/20/2006 12:40:38 PM PDT by white trash redneck

JEDDAH, 20 September 2006 — Due to the intimidation and harassment Saudi students have been recently experiencing in the United States, especially after what happened to Homaidan Al-Turki and his family, Saudis are thinking twice before sending their children to study in America.

“Such discrimination and humiliation would discourage parents from even thinking about sending their children to study in the US,” said Muhammad Al-Enezi, 39.

On Aug. 31, a Colorado court sentenced Al-Turki to 27 years in prison for sexually assaulting his maid, forcibly imprisoning her and not paying her wages — charges he vehemently denies.

Al-Enezi, a teacher at one of the largest high schools in Jeddah, said that many of his students who had been contemplating of studying in the US now showed no interest in heading there.

“Most of them refuse to continue their college education in the US and they havethe support of their parents. It’s obvious that they’ve decided so after hearing about the mistreatment and intimidation suffered by other Saudi students in the US,” he said.

Jamal Al-Najjar, a government employee and father of two, urged the Saudi government to put pressure on the US administration to change its policy toward Saudi students.

Al-Najjar hopes that Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah will interfere and bring a solution to the issue relating to Al-Homaidan, who was sentenced in the US under “false accusations.”

“I am not going to sacrifice my sons by sending them to the US as long as they keep mistreating our children and abusing them for no reasons. My two sons will be graduating this year from high school and I will never ever think of sending them to America,” Al-Najjar said.

“I know of many parents that have changed their plans and are sending their children to other destinations such as Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. The US is not the right place for our children and I hope all parents do not think about sending their children to any part of the US,” he added.

According to the latest statistics, there has been a noticed decrease of GCC students in the US, the biggest drop being in Saudi numbers.

“This is because of the new political climate after Sept. 11, 2001, and the fact that Muslims in the US are facing many difficulties for mistakes that could be dealt in a less aggressive way,” said 29-year-old Ahmed Al-Falih, who is currently studying at a university in the US Midwest.

Speaking to Arab News by telephone, he described the situation of Saudi students as unsafe. “Many students feel scared. They expect the unexpected just like Al-Turki who has been accused of rape and other things that he did not do.”

Meanwhile, a Saudi tourist returning from the United States recently expressed anger and frustration at mistreatment suffered at the hands of US authorities when he was detained for a couple of hours at the J.F. Kennedy Airport. “I thought things would have calmed down after all these years but the situation is still tense and Arabs are discriminated against and mistreated,” said Mamdouh Al-Saeed, 24.

Al-Saeed added that he would not feel comfortable going to the US for further education in the current climate.

Al-Turki, 37, said that US authorities were persecuting him for “traditional Muslim behaviors”. He blamed anti-Muslim prejudice for his conviction and the severity of the sentence. He claimed that the prosecutors persuaded the maid to accuse him after they failed to build a case against him as a terrorist.

People across Saudi Arabia have little faith in the US government and constantly accuse the authorities there of double standards by harshly punishing Al-Turki, while simultaneously letting off the perpetrators behind the Abu Ghraib fiasco in Iraq with a slap on the wrist.



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To: white trash redneck

Damn Arabtards are gonna put Scrappleface outta business with articles like this!


41 posted on 09/20/2006 1:06:53 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (If a monkey bangs away at a typewriter twice a week for ten years it could write an M. Dowd column.)
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To: white trash redneck
Al-Najjar hopes that Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah will interfere and bring a solution to the issue relating to Al-Homaidan...

Good luck talking to the state of Colorado Board of Corrections, Abdullah!

42 posted on 09/20/2006 1:07:05 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: white trash redneck
Br'er A-rab

Looks like you're mixing your racial metaphors!?!?{/ shocked approbation}

43 posted on 09/20/2006 1:07:31 PM PDT by BoneHead
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To: Arpege92

Great news that they're leaving.

But sending them to Australia? LOL

Are they in for a BIG surprise!


44 posted on 09/20/2006 1:09:00 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Arpege92
Kind of says a lot that they have to send their kids around the world to learn something doesn't it, instead of a good domestic system. Seems to me that they just love western countries too, I wonder why that is....
45 posted on 09/20/2006 1:18:00 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: conservativeharleyguy

"Al-Turki, 37, said that US authorities were persecuting him for “traditional Muslim behaviors..."

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

there it is.....things only evil and inhuman


46 posted on 09/20/2006 1:19:05 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: white trash redneck

some universities are very dependent on foreign full tuition students.


47 posted on 09/20/2006 1:22:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

“traditional Muslim behaviors..."

Honour killings occur in a distressingly large swathe of the world, from North Africa, Middle East (including Palestine, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, the Gulf Countries, and Iran), Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan. Isolated incidents have also been reported from the UK, Sweden, USA and Germany but these were carried out by Kurdish and other Arab immigrants to these western countries. So we are talking about a rather large territorial base where these crimes are committed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

there it is.....things only evil and inhuman


48 posted on 09/20/2006 1:25:30 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: white trash redneck

So, Saudis students decline to work in countries that refuse to let them rape their slaves.

Oh well, there's always Belgium and France.


49 posted on 09/20/2006 1:29:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: white trash redneck

Reminds me of the story about the British in India during the height of the colonial period (WHICH I KNOW I'VE POSTED ON OTHER THREADS, BUT I LOVE IT!). Seems a new Commander was sent to a region in India. The local holy man came to the Commander to welcome him and advise him of the local customs. He advised the Commander that there was a tradition in India that when a man died leaving a wife, a funeral pyre was built and the body of the deceased was cremated, together with his wife who was still very much alive.

The Commander politely listened and then said, "Really? We, too, have a charming custom in Great Britain. Whenever someone murders another human being, we build a gallows and hang the individual should he or she be found guilty. You may proceed with your funerals, and we sincerely hope the hammering won't disturb the mourners as we build the gallows." Ah, for the good old days when you could actually say that and get away with it.


50 posted on 09/20/2006 1:41:12 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: white trash redneck

Number one was Al-Turki a student? Doesn't sound like it. The fact that the guy had a maid and his family here sound more that he was some kind of businessman living in US for an extended period of time. Most Saudi students are not living with personal "slaves" on their college campuses. Actually they are living pretty much the same day to day life as other college. So Al-Turki is a bad analogy for being harassed in the US. As far as being "harassed at the airport" Gimmee a break!!!! What about 85 year old African-American church ladies, disabled children in wheelchairs, all sorts of folks who are being detained and searched ridiculously being the authorities don't want to appear as though they are racially profiling anyone. It wasn't Eskimos-----oooops, so politically incorrect---Inuit-- that attacked us on 9/11.


51 posted on 09/20/2006 1:48:24 PM PDT by brooklyn dave (Ya can take da kid outta Brooklyn--butchya can't take Brooklyn outta da kid)
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To: VRWCTexan

"There was a news item just a few days ago stating that Bush and the Saudi's had supposedly inked a new agreement that would bring 15,000 new Saudi students to "study" at US universities - and that they were already arriving by the 1,000s?"

Well that was a few days ago. EVERYTHINGS changed now and they're staying away by the thousands.

I worked in Saudi Arabia for three years and I definitely was nervous about violating some aspect of Saudi law and ending up in some kind of legal jam there. I didn't particularly want to have an encounter with sharia law.

I would say that I and other Americans were pretty well treated there. They spent a lot of time trying to convert me and were always polite and gracious. While I was there the other kind of Muslims blew up the Khobar towers just a short distance away.

And, if you weren't American or European you could much more easily find yourself in a bind with the legal system and have a much bigger problem. They take your passport when you go to work there (there are no tourists) and give you an iqama (identity document). You swap it for your passport when you leave.

They posted notices like pre-civil war runaway slave notices for people fleeing from their employers with their photograph and details about their appearance, education, skills and behavior.

When a bunch of brass valves left our shipyard and were found in the flea market 30 miles away they took one Pakistani and one Philipino worker and beat them to make them confess. Neither one of these guys was young. Of course, only a Saudi could have pulled this off.

They arrested five Philipino office workers when the contents of the safe disappeared on base. The only one with the combination was the Saudi officer. These guys were all still in jail when I left. It can be a pretty spooky place.


52 posted on 09/20/2006 1:48:36 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Al-Enezi, a teacher at one of the largest high schools in Jeddah, said that many of his students who had been contemplating of studying in the US now showed no interest in heading there.

We'll let's just keep enforcing our law and maybe the next story will read:

Al-Enezi, a teacher at one of the largest high schools in Jeddah, said that many of his students who had been contemplating of studying in the US now showed no interest in beheading there.

53 posted on 09/20/2006 2:00:29 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: white trash redneck
"People across Saudi Arabia have little faith in the US government and constantly accuse the authorities there of double standards by harshly punishing Al-Turki, while simultaneously letting off the perpetrators behind the Abu Ghraib fiasco in Iraq with a slap on the wrist."

Further news. "People (men) across Saudi Arabia are misanthropic wife beaters and rapists who see nothing wrong with terrorizing women but wet themselves at the prospect of someone putting a pair of panties over their heads."
54 posted on 09/20/2006 2:06:57 PM PDT by monday
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To: white trash redneck

Less potential suicide bombers> Less to Deport after the next attack.


55 posted on 09/20/2006 2:18:03 PM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: white trash redneck

I hope this is a bonfide promise and not an idle "threat".


56 posted on 09/20/2006 2:34:10 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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To: Brad Cloven
US authorities were persecuting prosecuting him for “traditional Muslim behaviors”.

Uh, yeah...that's pretty much it.

57 posted on 09/20/2006 2:51:04 PM PDT by Lekker 1 (("...the world will be...eleven degrees colder by the year 2000" -- K. Watt, Earth Day, 1970)
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To: white trash redneck
“I thought things would have calmed down after all these years but the situation is still tense..."

Excellent!

58 posted on 09/20/2006 3:00:47 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: Alouette

Really. There are plenty of other foreign countries who's citizens appreciate the opportunity to come here. Send the stupid Saudis packing.


59 posted on 09/20/2006 3:24:38 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (Tom Cruise to Pluto: Welcome to the club!)
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To: Arpege92
Interesting...they've got all that oil money in Saudi Arabia, but no world-class universities there for their citizens to attend.

I bet if they quit funding all those radical Wahabbi madrasas all over the world they'd have enough money for a really nice university. Then they wouldn't have to worry about their children being "abused" in the US. Sounds to me like they don't have their priorities straight.

60 posted on 09/20/2006 4:04:28 PM PDT by vrwc1
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