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Posted on 09/20/2006 10:35:22 AM PDT by cutepanda
He said his grandfather's incarceration by the Germans had a profound effect on his mother; that because it was a painful memory, it was almost never discussed. "Some may find it odd that I have not probed deeply into the details of my family history, but it's a fact," Allen said in his statement. Speaking with The Times-Dispatch, Allen said the disclosure is "just an interesting nuance to my background." He added, "I still had a ham sandwich for lunch. And my mother made great pork chops."
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Yea, you should probably check and see who has your six on that. A zotted troll courtesy of a personal appearance by JimRob.
That's Jim's business not mine.
But you go right ahead with your head-banging.
Candidates tout their lineage in every election. Certainly you know who the President's father is, and grandfather? if you can claim your family is decendant of a Mayflower family or some other historic figure (positive historic figure) wouldn't you want to share that fact? and really who isnt even a little bit curious enough as a youth or young adult to ask these questions of your family, especially the oldest alive relatives?
down south, we hear "fine Christian gentleman" all the time during election season for whatever it actually is supposed to mean or imply. candidates talk about heritage all the time. and if he doesnt update the bio's what will the next leftie/MSM attack look like?
will this help or hurt him? who knows, but people will judge him how he handles the attack.
All you have to do is beat him. There is no candidate on the horizon capable of doing that. Guiliani will win at least half the southern primaries then what are you going to say.
As for saying one is descended from a famous historic figure... again, I just see that as rather outdated. I don't think the Dames of the Mayflower and DAR is very influential to most voters today, even in the South.
I do know lots of people, especially today, are curious about their heritage, but that doesn't mean someone who isn't is somehow lacking. To me, this whole "his grandfather was Jewish" thing smacks of some kind of 1920s or 1940s throwback. I just don't get the point. I suppose we just have to agree to disagree on this one.
The New South as far as the GOP is concerned are Reagan Democrats who didn't start voting consistently GOP at every level (downticket) until GWB in 2000.
These are not the kind of men who will cotton to someone in a flamboyant drag queen costume, and to think that Guiliani's opponents will not capitalize on this foolishness is foolishness itself, as was his willingness to appear in drag in the first place.
That sort of thing makes Southern men uncomfortable in their choice of President, regardless of whatever you're piping in Illinois.
Here's a bookmark for you -- meet me back at this thread in late March of 2008 after Rudy drops out from his Super Tuesday fiasco, so I can rub your face in it.
I was born and raised in the South and my family is still there. It is in the South that Guiliani is drawing some of his biggest and most enthusiastic crowds. They have a sense of humor in the South as well as concern about who could fight our enemies most effectively.
There will be no clear winner from the Primary races so I don't expect to see anyone dropping out. It appears likely that the nominee will come from the Convention not the primaries and Guiliani will likely go into it with more delegates than any of the others. He will win half the Southern primaries.
What you think is "enthusiastic" is simply pandering to friendly crowds in urban cities -- (the destestable) McCain, Huckabee & Bayh could claim the same thing -- which doesn't count for jack state-wide on Election Day, and you know that to be a fact if you were raised in the South, which I doubt.
Like I said, bookmark this thread so I can rub your face in it in late March, 2008, after Guiliani tearfully wipes away his end-of-campign tears with his evening gloves.
Oh, so I am now a LIAR? Since you know how southern bred people react to such a charge you won't be surprised when I tell you to go screw yourself.
Just what was it that Miss Peggy Fox was trying to accomplish here? Why did she think this question was meaningful for the political process? What did she think this information would add to the election?
That's what I want to know: why did this woman think this was even relevant? And, if relevant, to what?
I agree. There does seem to be a concerted Get Allen effort around here sometimes.
Obviously she wanted to embarass and upset the Senator so he would do or say something stupid. Her attempt did not work as she expected and the crowd even boo'ed the question.
Have you ever heard him on Hannity? Or any of the shout shows?
He is real, very real. That's why the Rats are skeered of him.
Rudy has a very very high mountain to climb for him to be nominated.
"The probability of winning the nomination is the inverse of your hopes. Guiliani is the hands down favorite and, if he wants it, will win the nomination."
Oh my. Please explain how any pro-abortion candidate can win the Republican nomination.
Given your views and mine together, I suppose Mit Romney or McCain are the most likely candidates.
By the way, explain why you think George Allen has such a low chance of winning.
But with the control of the House and Senate on the line, I just don't get FReepers who claim to be conservatives taking their cues from the RAT playbook to trash George Allen.
Don't stab him (and us) in the back while we try to get him re-elected to the Senate.
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