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Call for ban on 'defamation of Islam' [Perv Musharraf tells U.N.]
News.com.au ^ | Sept. 20, 2006

Posted on 09/20/2006 8:13:45 AM PDT by Alouette

PAKISTANI President Pervez Musharraf today called for a ban on the "defamation of Islam" in a speech to the UN General Assembly in which he took a veiled swipe at Pope Benedict XVI for his remarks linking the Muslim faith to violence.

"We also need to bridge, through dialogue and understanding, the growing divide between the Islamic and Western worlds," General Musharraf told the 192-member assembly.

"It is imperative to end racial and religious discrimination against Muslims and to prohibit the defamation of Islam."

In an indirect reference to Pope Benedict XVI, he said, "It is most disappointing to see personalities of high standing oblivious of Muslim sensitivities at these critical moments".

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To: Slings and Arrows; RightWhale

...Santeria, Yoruba, and Satanism.


61 posted on 09/20/2006 8:54:08 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Alouette

Let me paraphrase: We need a dialog so shutup and listen.


62 posted on 09/20/2006 8:55:00 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Alouette

A ban on dhimitude should be priority #1.


63 posted on 09/20/2006 8:57:31 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: Alouette
Muslims can sure dish it out, and dish it out and dish it out. They blast everyone and every religion on the planet - they can have official "hate America" days and burn flags and trash talk every religion but their own. But if anyone dares to say anything about them, they act like spoiled brat cry babies. Waaa, waaaa, it's not fair, I'll hold my breath and turn blue, I'll take my ball and go home, I'll hurt you. Thin-skinned jerks.

I'm sick of their double standard - I'm sick of their threats, I'm sick of how they trash talk other religions, but are soooooooo "chip on the shoulder" prickly about their own. Gimme a break!!!! Grow up.

64 posted on 09/20/2006 9:00:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Muslim outrage would be taken more seriously if they weren't such arrogant hypocrites.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
At that point, I like the odds of the side with space age technology far more than the side that struggles to distinguish itself from other primates.

Now THAT ought to leave a mark! Good job!

65 posted on 09/20/2006 9:00:17 AM PDT by pgyanke (We can't share the blessings of peace with those for whom violence is holy imperative. -andy58-in-nh)
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To: Robe
Oh, do we ever. The reason that islam rises up and throws a temper tantrum now is because they know they will get away with it. Who is going to stop them? We wallow in political correctness to such a degree that we allow them to sweep over us. Where is the support for the Pope, where was the support for Israel? Come to think of it where is the support for the US. If once we in the West were to present a united front to these basically cowardly islamists they would back down so fast we would wonder why we didn't do decades ago.

But no, we would rather fight each other, than save our own lives and way of life. We show lack of unity, corruption and denial every chance we get. How can we fight an enemy who is united by a dominating force (islam), when we can't agree on anything? I fear for the future without men such as Sir Winston.

66 posted on 09/20/2006 9:02:24 AM PDT by CremeSaver (I don't repeat gossip, so listen carefully.)
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To: ichabod1
I admit I had to look that one up.

I would say that the end is approaching faster and faster. Removal of Musharraf will not hasten or slow it down.

Pak has already "taken a lurch to the bad."

67 posted on 09/20/2006 9:04:29 AM PDT by sauropod ("Work as if you were to live 100 Years, Pray as if you were to die To-morrow." - Ben Franklin)
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To: sauropod

Replaced by who? He's not perfect, but perfect isn't a choice. It's him or a Taliban-like regime for the time being.


68 posted on 09/20/2006 9:17:19 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Alouette

"All your relgion are belong to us..."


69 posted on 09/20/2006 9:29:08 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Robe

Winston Churchill On Islam
A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War", in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener's campaign in the Sudan

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men."

Here's a really good one from the 14th Century:

“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread the sword by the faith he preached,”

---14th-century Byzantine emperor, Manuel II Paleologus(Rock On Infidel!).

I chant this everyday along with the Pledge of Allegiance. It's as refreshing as the day the Pope quoted it.






70 posted on 09/20/2006 9:34:46 AM PDT by TheeOhioInfidel
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To: Alouette

You defame yourselves, Mushie.....shut up and go crawl back into a cave


71 posted on 09/20/2006 9:35:33 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Zarqawi died, liberals cried....)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Now you're getting into complex theological issues.

Death to the defamers of Spaghetti-Os!

72 posted on 09/20/2006 9:37:07 AM PDT by OSHA (I am become OSHA, destroyer of beers.)
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To: Alouette

Anybody happen to notice that the President of the General Assembly is a Muslim woman? The Enemy, President of the General Assembly of the UN.


73 posted on 09/20/2006 9:45:02 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Pornography kills.)
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To: Robe

And highlights for those who missed this excellent posting yesterday: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-bloggers/1703690/posts

"Manuel certainly knew what he was talking about. He spent some time as a hostage in the court of one Muslim neighbor and he spent a lifetime fighting back against expansionist Islam. Almost nobody pauses to consider that Manuel might have something to teach us. Instead our conversation centers on whether the Pope is to blame for riling Muslims up and what he (and we) can do to mollify them."

So what are some of the lessons that Manuel might be able to teach us? Here are a few:

* Unity is essential against an enemy. If the Paleologoi hadn't been so busy overthrowing each other, they wouldn't have had to seek allies among the Ottomans, and may have been able to put up more of a defense against their common enemy.

* Appeasment doesn't work. As Andronicus and his son learned, there is always someone willing to pay a higher tribute, at which point your value drops to zero. As Winston Churchill was to say many years later, "Appeasment is like feeding a crocodile, hoping that he will eat you last."

* The West must be willing to fight. Manuel spent the last 20 years of his life trying to win help from his European neighbors against the onslaught of the Ottoman Empire. While Europe celebrated the prosperity and artistic expression of the Renaissance, Constantinople was beseiged and humiliated, and ultimately sacked. Although the West won a temporary respite, the Ottomans didn't leave them alone. They continued to attack and conquer Christian Europe until they were turned back from the gates of Vienna in 1683.

"So, will we learn from this tragic emperor or will we continue to pretend that Western Civilization is the real enemy and that we have more to fear from Pope Benedict XVI than from the Islamic radicals who threaten to kill him?"





74 posted on 09/20/2006 9:46:26 AM PDT by TheeOhioInfidel
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To: Alouette
Memo to mohammedan Pakistani president:

1. Osculate meas Sanctas Romanas nates!

2.

3. Prezzie, when islam starts policing itself and cracks down on all these "radicals", formally and publicly apologizes for 9/11, murders of Americans, Israelis, other non-muslims, etc., etc., etc., then give us a call.
75 posted on 09/20/2006 9:58:45 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Regarding islam: Osculate meas Sanctas Romanas nates (with thanks to Alouette for translation))
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To: Robe
I have learned to love Sir Winston more with each passing year of my life. I looked like him as a baby - :-), studied him throughout grade school, high school and college, and quite unexpectedly married a total devotee and began to REALLY take in the breadth of his wisdom and the example of a life lived fully.

We all need to revisit his words, wisdom and example and stand fast in our faith.
76 posted on 09/20/2006 9:58:56 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
I read of him sparsely, in he context of WWII, and came away impressed with his intuition..
Since you've studied him... can you recommend a comprehensive book about him?
77 posted on 09/20/2006 10:06:08 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Alouette

Until such time these so-called "moderate" leaders realize that it is the beheaders and the suicide bombers who defame Islam and should be condemned, we won't make mush progress.

I just emailed the Pakistan embassy in Washington DC to point this out.

ambassador@pakistan-embassy.org


78 posted on 09/20/2006 10:12:24 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: Javelina

You cannot accuse Islam of promoting violence -
because if you do, they'll engage in violence....
Got it.


79 posted on 09/20/2006 10:15:44 AM PDT by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: Alouette

How about a ban on slicing heads off while filming them while singing religious ditties?


80 posted on 09/20/2006 10:25:31 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Jihadists: The new nazis, aided and abetted by the left and their enablers in the media.)
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