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Student questions legality of metal detectors at school
WTNH Television ^ | 9/20/06 | Puppage

Posted on 09/20/2006 5:14:15 AM PDT by Puppage

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To: dpa5923

You need to reread the Constitution, although I'm not sure you'll understand it this time either.


121 posted on 09/20/2006 8:50:26 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: shankbear

Exactly. The school cannot make students take a drug test as a condition of showing up to your classes, as your attendance is required by law. They can only test students after probable cause, or as a condition to participating in optional activities, extracurriculars, etc.

Schools may have established the right to randomly search bookbags and lockers, but, IIRC, not to search your person, at least not without cause.

Forcing a student through a metal detector before they can attend class would seem to violate this principle.


122 posted on 09/20/2006 8:58:00 PM PDT by Nonesuch (The kid has a point. I'd hope "conservatives" would see his point.)
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To: HonorsDaddy

Metal detectors are weapons used to protect the unarmed.


123 posted on 09/20/2006 8:59:31 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
What the school needs to do is find the two or three disgruntaled kids planning on staging a school shooting and set a date for them to do it. They then tell all the kids except for this one moron not to come to school. On that day, the kids with guns come into the school to only to find Mr. 4th Amendment the only one in class. Let's see how he likes his 4th amendment then.

Then he'll just exercise Mr 2nd Amendment and be done with the kids.

124 posted on 09/20/2006 9:03:24 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Property tax is feudalism. Income taxes are armed robbery of the minority by the majority.)
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To: Puppage
Poor kid misunderstands that public schools have nothing to do with silly old inalienable rights. He probably still thinks the public schools support free speech too. Wait till he gets to college, he's in for a surprise.
125 posted on 09/20/2006 9:17:24 PM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: Puppage
The district says it is like the right to enter a courtroom or get on a plane. It's new policy to keep young people safe.

If they wanted to keep young people safe they wouldn't have public schools.

126 posted on 09/20/2006 9:19:44 PM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
What the school needs to do is find the two or three disgruntaled kids planning on staging a school shooting and set a date for them to do it. They then tell all the kids except for this one moron not to come to school. On that day, the kids with guns come into the school to only to find Mr. 4th Amendment the only one in class. Let's see how he likes his 4th amendment then.

We used to have metal detectors at our schools in the late 90s. The kids would still get guns in using lead boxes. I'm sure there are a hundred other ways of getting a gun past a security point.

127 posted on 09/20/2006 9:25:33 PM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: Centurion2000

I like that idea. All kids should come to school packing. If someone gets the wise idea of trying to use a gun on someone for no reason, he knows he'll be taken out quickly.


128 posted on 09/20/2006 9:42:59 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (How to win over terrorist? KILL them with UNKINDNESS.)
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To: unsycophant
Metal detectors are weapons used to protect the unarmed.

Really? Here on planet earth they merely detect the presence of a certain density of metals.

129 posted on 09/21/2006 6:23:25 AM PDT by HonorsDaddy
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To: Sir Gawain

I got the "police state" line before when discussing my frustration at people who make conscious decisions about violating "minor" laws when they don't think that they'll get caught (traffic laws and such).

I'm not being coy, I'm just curious, what do you consider a police state to be?


130 posted on 09/21/2006 7:17:10 PM PDT by Axhandle (Go hang a salami; I'm a lasagna hog!)
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To: HonorsDaddy

Exactly. I wish we had something like that here on Planet Free Republic to detect the presence of a certain density of mentals.


131 posted on 09/22/2006 5:21:28 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: HonorsDaddy
The reason for bringing guns to school these days have changed. It's no longer to hunt animals; it's to hunt Christians. Remember Columbine? Do you believe in God? Boom!
132 posted on 09/24/2006 2:40:51 PM PDT by Arcy
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To: Puppage

Nick Evans -- professional dickhead


133 posted on 09/24/2006 2:43:41 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Arcy

The reason for bringing guns to school these days have changed. It's no longer to hunt animals; it's to hunt Christians. Remember Columbine? Do you believe in God? Boom!

Um - yeah - ok...sure....

One word: prozac

134 posted on 09/25/2006 6:24:58 AM PDT by HonorsDaddy
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
Let's see how he likes his 4th amendment then.

Damn right! This stupid kid doesn't realize that the forth amendment was already repealed by the Bush administration.

It was about time too, it was a dumb amendment.

Now that we have gotten rid of the 1st, 2nd and 10th as well, let's get to work on the rest.

135 posted on 09/25/2006 6:30:55 AM PDT by Protagoras ( "moderation in principle is always a vice."........Thomas Paine)
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To: shankbear
This has passed court muster as well as dog searches and piss tests.

Damn right! I for one am happy that we have dog searches and piss tests. I want blood tests too.

Whine on you little loser punk puke.

Freakin pukes! What's a little piss when compared to living in a police state?


136 posted on 09/25/2006 6:36:33 AM PDT by Protagoras ( "moderation in principle is always a vice."........Thomas Paine)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Abolish public education.

Calling this "public education" is a stretch.

Abolish public education government schools.

137 posted on 09/25/2006 6:38:46 AM PDT by Protagoras ( "moderation in principle is always a vice."........Thomas Paine)
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To: Protagoras

Damn right. We need to impeach Bush and cheny and install Hugo Chavez to show us how to run a country.


138 posted on 09/25/2006 8:46:11 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (How to win over terrorist? KILL them with UNKINDNESS.)
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To: shankbear

"Whine on you little loser punk puke."

--What a surprising comment, what happened to freedom and questioning authority?

I argee that he MIGHT be a punk, but maybe he is a furture patriot.



139 posted on 09/25/2006 9:07:29 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Axhandle
Hi Axhandle-

What about metal detectors set-up at the shopping malls, supermarkets, movie theaters, coffee shops, and a variety of other retailers surrounding your house. Sure it would be a hassle, but at least YOUR safety would be increased. See where that kind of intrusion could get under your skin?

I'm not calling you a bootlicker, but there are plenty of FReepers who are inclined to do virtually anything the government demands of them in the so-called pursuit of safety. We just don't live in a perfect world.

~ Blue Jays ~

140 posted on 09/25/2006 9:14:55 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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