Posted on 09/19/2006 1:48:32 PM PDT by blam
Browne admits 'we underestimated Taliban'
By Toby Helm, Chief Political Correspondent
(Filed: 19/09/2006)
Britain and Nato seriously underestimated the resilience of the Taliban when sending troops into Afghanistan, Des Browne, the Defence Secretary has admitted.

British troops are facing a hard fight in Afghanistan
Addressing the Royal United Services Institute in London, he said the task had proved harder than we expected.
But he urged Nato countries who are now resisting sending extra troops to think again.
The Talibans tenacity in the face of massive losses has been more than we expected, Mr Browne said. Referring to Natos attempts to assemble another 2,500 more troops, he said some nations had doubts that the mission could ever succeed while others were concerned about the level of risk their soldiers would be exposed to.
Nato nations must decide whether to back their investment, re-affirm their original intent and send a clear signal that Nato as an alliance is strong and determined to see the task through, he said.
All partners should be prepared to face equal risk. No-one has a monopoly on determination and courage.
Success wont be what we understand to be security and prosperity and proper governance, but it will be progress and it will be massively worth it, he added.
He stressed that Natos Afghan foes had been fought to a standstill and added: They cannot beat us.
But that was only the first step, the Defence Secretary said. There remained a hard core of possibly 1,000 Taliban who were implacable, irreconcilable and determined to keep their impunity in the south and possibly reclaim control of the whole country.
They were adept at forming alliances with the drugs barons and at recruiting footsoldiers from among ordinary Afghan tribesmen.
Mr Browne said it was essential that Nato was able to demonstrate to such recruits that it would not be defeated in combat and that the Taliban lacked the strength to impose their vision of the future on the country.
These tribesmen are persuaded to fight not because they hate us, or because of an Afghan culture of resistance, but simply because they are paid - often with money made from drugs, he said.
We dont want to kill them, or defeat them - we want to convince them to back peace, to back the view of the future represented by the Afghan government, rather than by the Taliban or the drug lords.
I fully acknowledge that if we cannot do this, if we cannot persuade them to put down their guns, then we will struggle to make progress, and there will be a real danger that their deaths will motivate others to join the fight, and potentially turn ends.
The US is OUT and the EU in IN and that TaliBanned is resurging???
Who would have figured?
The FRENCH???
Hmmm. Sounds pretty utopian to me - and deadly for your own troops.
The Poles are on the way. They know how to get the job done.
Sh*t! This is all I've been hearing from the Brits and NATO. The Canadians have been killing the sh*t out of the Taliban and we hear this from the top dogs?
Put a dress on 'em and send 'em home.
Every time we turned around, some rat bastard was pukin' at the mouth to a commie rag and tellin' every enemy our move(s) .. position(s), plan(s) and the problems we were having amongst 'ourselves' ... We are the biggest, the baddest, the fastest and best ass-kickin' force on planet Earth.
If we ever adopt one iota of rat bastardism and fight that way? .. we will be the Imperial rulers of Planet Earth.
OOPS .. I took this personal .. I'm not a Brit .. but the Brits are on the same plane as we are.
I have a suspicion that Pakistan is behind our difficulties with the Taliban. Where do the Taliban get their weapons and ammunition, if not from Pakistan? We're not getting enoug support for all the $ we've give to Pakistan.
They underestimated the guys who fought off the Soviets for a decade from horseback?
Maybe what he means is, "We're afraid to use the full might of our power."
I'm just sayin'.
God bless the Bulldog! But their leadership could stand to grow a pair. This is the same PC crap we heard from them in Basra. There they were the good guys, quite above the rough hewn Americans. Look were that got 'em. Forget the 'hearts and minds' thing and go kill the enemy.
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