Can U.S. lead world into a carbon-free future?

Oakland Tribune ^ | 9/19/06 | Ian Hoffman

[xjcsa]

A "carbon-free future"? As a carbon-based life form, I say no thanks. Reminds me of "That Hideous Strength" by C.S. Lewis.

[mysterio]

I like the idea of nuclear and hydrogen. Seems like that's the best way. Lots of hurdles to overcome before we get there, however. But it would mean a much more energy independent US.

[steel_resolve]

It consumed more coal last year than the United States, Russia and India combined

Funny, you don't hear Al Gore flogging the Chinese over their Global Warming efforts, even though they are ojne of the top polluters. Stupid Al Gore...

[Sgt_Schultze]

Silicon-based life?

[stayathomemom]

Does that mean I have to live without my diamond?

[ClearCase_guy]

pushing average temperatures from an increase of a few degrees to an increase of 15 degrees or more.

An increase in the average global temperature of 15 degrees? My word, these people don't know what they're talking about.

[jwalburg]

You know, the libs keep complaining that Bush and the neo-cons are manipulating people with fear, irrational fear of terrorism when really they just are greedy globalists. But fear of carbon seems to be their manipulative scheme. Which is the real threat? Terrorists, who have a long track record going back way before Bush? Or this global warming fear mongering?

[RightWhale]

Carbon-free sounds like a typical greenie-lib-fascist slogan that makes no sense. We are made of carbon, life as we know it is carbon based.

[NaughtiusMaximus]

As a proud carbon based life form what I have to say is "I'll give up my carbon when they pry my cold dead fingers from around it."

[ChiMark]

Since automobile use only 14% of the crude we use
we would have to ban all manufacturing, stop breathing.
Not possible. Most of the C02 derives from natural sources.
This is a hit against the capitalist system by the disgruntled socialists.

[P-40]

Putting the rest of the nation on California's low-carbon diet

Low-carbon diet? That is news to me. What drop in emissions they did experience came from running much of the power generation infrastucture and other polluting businesses out of state...but they still consume all the energy and products they did before.

[mysterio]

I'm not supporting it for the carbon reason. I support it for the energy independence angle. And I don't want the government mandating it. I just think it's the best way to go.

[samtheman]

The left is way too full of shit to EVER be carbon-free.

[AFreeBird]

Low-carbon diet?

Does this mean I can't cook ribs on the grill any more?

[bigfootbob]

I have a question. What does energy independence mean to you? Isolationism? How will that work?

[xjcsa]

Putting the rest of the nation on California's low-carbon diet

Low-carbon diet? That is news to me. What drop in emissions they did experience came from running much of the power generation infrastucture and other polluting businesses out of state...but they still consume all the energy and products they did before.

He got confused; he meant California's "Low-carb" diet. Different deal, although I'm not sure what it has to do with alleged "climate change", er, "CLIMATE CHANGE".

[P-40]

What does energy independence mean to you?

It means being able to generate, within our own borders and with our own resources, a base amount of energy goods using the abundant means at our disposal taking into account all costs including the environment and other quality of life factors.

[bigfootbob]

That's reasonable. I hear over and over, "We need to stop buying that middle-eastern oil" and the terrorist thing will go away. That is nonsense.

[P-40]

"We need to stop buying that middle-eastern oil" and the terrorist thing will go away.

They won't go away, they will just have less cash...and with less cash their ability to hurt us is lessened. Not to mention that there is a lot of satisfaction in not buying from people that want to kill you.