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The Senator's Gentile Rebuke (Sen. Allen Angry at Reporter's Question about Jewish Ancestry)
Washington Post ^ | 9/19/06 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 09/19/2006 4:16:14 AM PDT by nj26

First came Sen. George Allen's Macaca Moment. Then we learned of challenger Jim Webb's thoughts on the "horny" women of the Naval Academy.

Now, just when you thought Virginia's U.S. Senate race couldn't get any weirder, the Jews of Tunis are making a cameo.

At a debate in Tysons Corner yesterday between Republican Allen and Democrat Webb, WUSA-TV's Peggy Fox asked Allen, the tobacco-chewing, cowboy-boot-wearing son of a pro football coach, if his Tunisian-born mother has Jewish blood.

"It has been reported," said Fox, that "your grandfather Felix, whom you were given your middle name for, was Jewish. Could you please tell us whether your forebears include Jews and, if so, at which point Jewish identity might have ended?"

Allen recoiled as if he had been struck. His supporters in the audience booed and hissed. "To be getting into what religion my mother is, I don't think is relevant," Allen said, furiously. "Why is that relevant -- my religion, Jim's religion or the religious beliefs of anyone out there?"

"Honesty, that's all," questioner Fox answered, looking a bit frightened.

"Oh, that's just all? That's just all," the senator mocked, pressing his attack. He directed Fox to "ask questions about issues that really matter to people here in Virginia" and refrain from "making aspersions."

"Let's move on," proposed the moderator, George Stephanopoulos of ABC News.

Yes, let's -- but not before we figure out what that was all about. Turns out the Forward, a Jewish newspaper, reported that the senator's mother, Etty, "comes from the august Sephardic Jewish Lumbroso family."

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KEYWORDS: georgeallen; senate2006
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Exactly, democrats feel that Republicans are all racists and therefore we would not vote for a man with Jewish blood.

She also worded her question to offend Jews as well. "When did the Jewish identity end". That was to offend any Jews that might vote for Allen because he was Jewish.

Clearly this women and the Post want to let us all infer that Allen is a fake Christian pretender who is shunning his Jewish past.
101 posted on 09/19/2006 5:58:55 AM PDT by poinq
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To: Jaxter; mdwakeup; Gman

Allen wasn't suggesting that calling someone a decendant of a Jew was "casting aspersions" because he thinks there's something bad about jewish blood.

He was nailing the reporter's motive for bringing up jewish ancestry. She was the one whose frame of mind was at issue. Not the Senator, who was the innocent, intended victim of her totally inappropriate question.

That is so obvious at least to me, that I'm shocked that anyone attributes wrong attitudes about jews to Senator Allen.

And not much can shock me anymore, so that is saying something...


102 posted on 09/19/2006 5:59:07 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: txrangerette

Correctamundo.

Imagine a black candidate being asked if it was true that he was his grandmother was an octaroon.

It is race baiting at its worst.


103 posted on 09/19/2006 6:05:52 AM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: nj26

I do think that the question was dumb and out of line and the Post story is slanted, but I can't help but agree with others that Allen could have handled it better.


104 posted on 09/19/2006 6:13:40 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: The G Man

Sycophants congregate.

Locked. Loaded.

Incoming...


105 posted on 09/19/2006 6:16:39 AM PDT by Stallone (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror.)
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To: Stallone

LOL!


106 posted on 09/19/2006 6:17:09 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: MattinNJ

In one particularly shocking passage in the book, Oppenheimer quotes a campaign official who describes an angry attack by Hillary in which she screams at him, "You fucking Jew bastard!"

Two sourced eyewitnesses confirmed to Oppenheimer that they heard the verbal assault.


107 posted on 09/19/2006 6:17:33 AM PDT by Stallone (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Cohan is Irish.


108 posted on 09/19/2006 6:18:16 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Stallone

Hillary, Biden, it goes on and on.

The hypocrisy of the 'Rat traitors knows no bounds.

Enemy No. 1 in the War on Terror is the Democrats and Liberal Media.


109 posted on 09/19/2006 6:19:49 AM PDT by Stallone (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror.)
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To: Stallone

Didn't Dick Morris also make that claim about her as well? (I realize I should know this since I'm, well, you know ... one of her sycophants and all, but that seems to ring a bell with me)


110 posted on 09/19/2006 6:23:25 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: nj26
Question is whether the motive was to depress turnout for Allen in southside Virginia and among Muslims in Fairfax County, or whether it was to get under his skin and provoke him into an anger tantrum (as it successfully managed.)

I will admit I only heard the sound bit but I took it as a rebuke to the reporter not a anger tantrum.

111 posted on 09/19/2006 6:25:32 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: linda_22003

"Cohan is Irish."

There are some indications that the tribes of Dan and Levi settled in SW England and Wales. That the tribe of Dan settled in Ireland (Tuatha de Dannan) and Denmark (Dan Mark) is also accepted, by the people of those countries at least. My own paternal surname had ancient origins in Ireland, but they apparently went to England sometime prior to the 10th century, and then back to Ireland in the 1600's. The Irish are very clued in to preserving "tribal" descent, and so I would not be at all surprised to find that the Irish Cohan and the Jewish Kohn/Cohen are connected. I know an Irish business associate, who knew his name and mine were regarded as having the same origin (but I didn't know), took me up to Glendalough in County Wicklow. to show me around and to tell me about it.


112 posted on 09/19/2006 6:32:57 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: nj26
Keep in mind that no one badgered Clinton about the domestic situation of his boyhood, or who was his real Father.

And Kerry hid his Jewish Background until it was revealed that his grandfather was a Hungarian Jew who shot himself in the men's room of the best hotel in Boston. The empty-shirt senator from Mass. also would march for year's in Boston's St. Patrick's Day parade, never desputing the erroneous consensus of most that he was Irish.
113 posted on 09/19/2006 6:42:14 AM PDT by Brofholdonow
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To: Brofholdonow
who shot himself in the men's room of the best hotel in Boston

Which no doubt had to be cleaned up by poor immigrants forced to take the jobs that American's won't.

114 posted on 09/19/2006 6:44:28 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: Stallone

Nice sidestep, but we are not discussing that vile Stalinist, HRC. We are discussing Allen and whether he can hold up to the scutiny of being the '08 nominee. Of the 4 choices we seem to be looking at (Rudy, Newt, Romney, and Allen) I'm pulling for Allen- but he has to stop being baited into the lib's traps.


115 posted on 09/19/2006 7:12:53 AM PDT by MattinNJ (The West has been fighting the war on terror for 1300 years.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I listened/watched the debate on my computer yesterday...and you description is absolutely dead on.

The questioner was the one that came out the FOOL on this..not Sen. Allen.

AND, this is yet another hit piece by Dana Milbank..he completely mischaracterized the whole episode.


116 posted on 09/19/2006 7:22:02 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: Bahbah; MNJohnnie

PING


117 posted on 09/19/2006 7:27:09 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: Txsleuth

No one in that room liked the disgusting question from that woman and Allen won the debate, hands down. If the WaPo actually wanted to be a decent newspaper, they would not have Dana Milbank writing for them.


118 posted on 09/19/2006 7:31:02 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: Bahbah

I pinged you mostly to see how totally FALSE Dana Milbank's article was.

I guess these guys let their hate make them forget that WE actually DO watch these debates and know the true story.


119 posted on 09/19/2006 7:35:09 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: Txsleuth
Yes indeed. Sen. Allen (R-Conservative Virginia) won the little spat with the obnoxious female, race baiting TV reporterette. (Her lead in to her equally obnoxious follow up question on Iraq was also foolish and uncalled for).

And then Allen went on to win the whole damned debate.

The WAPO then went on to re-caste it as a loss somehow for Allen. They are really in to try to unseat them. You can't PAY for this kind of political support from the WAPO to the Webb campaign.

Notice Webb's dead silence when asked by Allen to respect women and take off the air the ads he is running (as per Nancy Reagan's request!!), which imply endorsement from the dead President Reagan... Webb as as silent as a doorknob. What a schmuck.

120 posted on 09/19/2006 8:05:31 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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