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Bush to send interrogation compromise to Hill (Bush throwing the RINOs a life raft)
MSNBC ^ | 9/18/2006 | AP

Posted on 09/18/2006 7:43:27 PM PDT by tobyhill

WASHINGTON - The White House told lawmakers it would send Congress a revised proposal late Monday for dealing with terrorism suspects as the number of GOP senators publicly opposing President Bush's initial plan continued to grow.

A Republican-led Senate committee last week defied Bush and approved terror-detainee legislation that Bush vowed to block. Sen. John Warner, normally a Bush supporter, pushed the measure through his Senate Armed Services Committee by a 15-9 vote.

John Ullyot, a spokesman for Warner, said the Virginia senator expected to receive another draft of the legislation. No details were immediately available.

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KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfold; interrogations; mccain; terrorism; thewall; wall
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To: tobyhill


I know that...lol. I was thinking more along the lines of a peanut sized Johnson.


121 posted on 09/18/2006 9:44:33 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Cold Heat

Jimmuh Carter, THE worst ex-president who has EVER lived. He did a lot of terrible things during his 4 short years as president, but far WORSE things afterwards.


122 posted on 09/18/2006 9:45:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Now that is just disgusting.


123 posted on 09/18/2006 9:46:28 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: tobyhill
Stiff upper lip, chin up, chest out and go work your heart out, for whoever the GOP presidential candidate is in '08....unless McLame somehow pulls it out.

Work to get the GOPer elected as though your life depends on it.....IT DOES!

124 posted on 09/18/2006 9:47:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: onyx
See? I knew you would remember, with a gentle prodding. LOL
125 posted on 09/18/2006 9:49:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
At least he's consistent...:-)
126 posted on 09/18/2006 9:51:21 PM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the mess...so go pound sand:-))
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To: Cold Heat
"They have redefined torture to make it convenient for them," Carter said of the Bush administration in an interview with Reuters.

AND Carter must redefine Pro-American so he can include himself.  Why doesn't that idiot just stick to building houses.  Hasn't he created enough crisis for this country.

127 posted on 09/18/2006 9:51:23 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: nopardons

The only good thing about the '08 elections is that they're still 2 years away and plenty of time to come up with a candidate other than McCain.


128 posted on 09/18/2006 9:52:29 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: 1035rep

I really despise that bone headed maroon!


129 posted on 09/18/2006 9:53:27 PM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the mess...so go pound sand:-))
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To: Cold Heat

So are most other viruses.


130 posted on 09/18/2006 9:55:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: tobyhill
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131 posted on 09/18/2006 10:05:58 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: tobyhill
Re the GOP, unless there is someone, WITH TOP SENORITY waiting in the wings, such as Bob Dole, everyone named early, is NOT the one who is going to be the candidate.

McQueeg is hated by his peers and they "owe" him NOTHING.

I know that some people here are afraid that McLame is going to get the nod. Please keep in mind the following....

McLame is older than Reagan was, when he won the primary and then the presidency.

He had reoccurring skin cancer.

Senators almost NEVER win the presidency.

McQueeg has a SEVERE anger management problem.

Most, if not ALL of us hate him from the last time he ran, loathe him for the damned CFR, are repelled by his gang of 14 maneuvers, and on and on and on and on!

People love to talk about how "bad" Giullian is ( which he isn't, when compared to the rest of the bunch ); however, if you want to talk about "BAGGAGE", John McCain has trunk loads! McQueeg would never have been a Navy flier, if his father and grandfather hadn't been admirals. He'd already crashed four or five planes before he crashed in Nam.

War hero? Nope. Yes, he was a POW, but not all POWS are war heroes.

He ditched his first wife, who had stood by him and fought for his release, while he was at the Hanoi Hilton. He married a younger richer version and that's the only way he ever won those early election. Well, his father-in-law, who was mobbed up, helped too.

There's lots and lost and LOTS on this slimeball and FREEPERS have it all neatly filed away......and WE play hardball.

132 posted on 09/18/2006 10:13:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Diddle E. Squat

GOObER.....

133 posted on 09/18/2006 10:16:52 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: SubMareener

Warner may or may not be an idiot, but I am ashamed he is my senator.

He promised he'd vote for Bork, then reneged.

He joined the Gang of 14.

He recruited Marshall Coleman to run as an independent to assure Ollie North's loss in '94.

I wouldn't tear up the medal, either, I'd flush it.


134 posted on 09/18/2006 10:19:38 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: churchillbuff
The Geneva Conventions were written AFTER WWII in which our enemies were somewhat civilized (Germany, Italy....much less so Japan). They had an army, in uniform, that was recognizable on the battlefield.

Times have changed, and you liberals refuse to see that.

Our new enemy thinks nothing of cutting off the heads of infidels (which includes our soldiers) and scoffs at the notion of "rules of engagement" and proper treatment of prisoners of war.

Its obscenely obvious that we need updated rules if we are to succeed in winning this war.

Even liberals want America to win, don't they?

135 posted on 09/18/2006 10:25:51 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Enterprise
And I hope I got it right. McCain wants the Presidency in 2008. In order to get it, he is cynically manipulating the treatment of terrorists, so that we cannot effectively interrogate them. Later, when something drastic happens, McCain will come to the rescue and use the incident to gain the Presidency in 2008. That is what I thought Rush was saying, and frankly, if this is what McCain is doing, it is ghastly!

Totally in character for him, though...

Am I hyperventilating here?

No, you're not...

the infowarrior

136 posted on 09/18/2006 10:35:54 PM PDT by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: tobyhill

I am very angry with McCain, Graham, and Warner, regarding their position on prisoner interrogations.

Some of our young soldiers were captured, beheaded, mutilated, and booby trapped in Baghdad. I need to understand how the Geneva Convention protected their young lives and their human rights. What friggin lawyer was there standing up and saying " oooh no, you should not do that"? Who was there for our soldiers, protecting their basic human rights while they were being tortured and defiled? Would they or their families be comforted by this McCain, Graham, Warner crap? I don't think so.

How did the Geneva Convention help our contractors in Baghdad when they were shot, mutilated, burned and hung from a bridge?

How did the Geneva Convention help our soldiers in Somalia when they were shot down, dragged through the streets and mutilated?

How did the Geneva Convention help our Marines in Beirut in 1983 when they were blown to bits as they slept?

Obviously, McCain, et al believe they are immune from criticism because they are "soldiers" and have fought in past wars. God Bless them for their service. However, even more obvious, they have not fought "this enemy" in the GWOT on the streets of Baghdad or the north country of Afghanistan.

p.s. forget about McCain as President - he will not even get throught the Arizona primary.


137 posted on 09/18/2006 10:42:38 PM PDT by After Hours
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To: churchillbuff
Maybe we never did the kind of treatment of prisoners, before, that's happening now? I'm not sure that's progress.

The folks we at war with now, are more akin to pirates (ie, enemies of the human race, as a whole), than they are even to the odious Nazis and Bushido imperialists of WW II. They are accorded *absolutely no protection* under the Geneva Conventions, and rightfully deserve none. There is no real comparison in our nation's history, but plenty in world history. They act like the pirates of old "at war with the world", and should be treated in the same way, stamped out ruthlessly, whenever, wherever they may be found...

the infowarrior

138 posted on 09/18/2006 10:43:51 PM PDT by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: churchillbuff
I can call Einstein stupid. Doesn't make him dumb, or me smart.

None of Einstein's ideas led to the weakening of America, either.

139 posted on 09/18/2006 10:52:26 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: IrishRainy
The Geneva Conventions were written AFTER WWII in which our enemies were somewhat civilized ""

The latest version was; the earlier version dates from the 1920s. that's the version that was in force during WWII. We didn't torture Jap or Kraut prisoners - even though Japs were thought to be plotting sabotage in Calif.

140 posted on 09/18/2006 11:04:17 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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