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To: endthematrix

That's the easy way out. I was in 2WTC, The weeks and months after 9/11 everybody who I worked with supported GWB, everybody. But when he went into Iraq, that's when the goodwill started burning away. Here's a guy who killed 2,500 New Yorkers and he's getting away with it. I don't think you realize what a kick in the nuts it is.


13 posted on 09/17/2006 9:36:00 PM PDT by Hong Kong Expat
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To: Hong Kong Expat

So, if the President gets Bin Laden...will the sentiment change?


18 posted on 09/17/2006 9:49:05 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Hong Kong Expat

Uh, I guess. After all what did Saddam ever do to NYC?


19 posted on 09/17/2006 9:50:15 PM PDT by endthematrix (“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”)
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To: Hong Kong Expat
I imagine it is tough for NYer's that OBL is still out there, especially since he was a danger all thru the 90's, killing Americans, and no one bothered to go after him.

At least our military, FBI, CIA, and other intell agencies worldwide are now looking for him.
21 posted on 09/17/2006 10:39:51 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Hong Kong Expat
Your theory is way off base. Abdul Rahman Yasin was the WTC bomber in 93 and nearly took down the towers. He "got away with it" and fled to Baghdad, where he was rewarded for his efforts by getting a government stipend from Hussein. The US asked Hussein to give him up, and Saddam said "no dice." Yasin "got away with it" courtesy of Bill Clinton and Saddam Hussein, yet New Yorkers somehow didn't feel "kicked in the nuts" by this. What I've recounted here is all true and verifiable. Just google Abdul Rahman Yasin. The only difference between Yasin and OBL is that Yasin didn't quite succeed in bringing down the towers and a Democrat was President.

When a Democrat is President, New Yorkers will address problems as problems. When a Republican is President, all the world's problems are placed on him.

New Yorkers have displaced all their anxiety about Islamic terrorism, an unsolvable problem, and placed in onto Bush, whom they can openly hate without getting their heads chopped off and feel like they're being productive. Hold a "Bush is Hitler" rally in Union Square, and all your bohemian neighbors will tell you that you're brave. Go to the Al Farooq mosque on Atlantic Avenue and hold a rally where you say "Islam is the problem!" and they will come out and kill you where you stand, just like they did Ari Halberstam. If you are an effete New Yorker who wants to feel like a hard guy doing something about terrorism, obviously your only option is to blame it all on Bush.

I live in New York City, and the "It's our fault they attacked us" rallies were already starting to form in Washington and Union Squares within two weeks of the attack, long before there was any action on Iraq.

What if you lived in a village that was being attacked repeatedly by a bear, and some people said, you either had to accept being killed at some point by the bear, or you had to go out into the woods with your blunderbuss and confront the bear. Well, a possible reaction to being faced with this choice would be to develop the theory that the bear is attracted to the village because the chef at the village inn cooks tasty food and that attracts the bear, so if they can manage to kill the chef, they won't have to confront the bear. They make a plan to take out the hapless chef, which is insane of course, but has the advantage of being immeasurably more appealing than hunting the bear, which would be scary.

New Yorkers, cowards that they are, are conspiring to kill the chef rather than the bear. It has nothing to do with Iraq or OBL at this point. It has to do with psychological displacement of fear onto New Yorkers' traditional objects of hatred: White male Christians. The appeal of doing this is too powerful to resist, apparently. I was driving on the FDR, and someone had hung a sign from an overpass "Osama Bin Forgotten!" What a crock. New Yorkers would like to think this is all about Bush and OBL. But that doesn't explain '93 and Abdul Rahman Yasin. So they don't talk about him and he's gone down the memory hole.

27 posted on 09/18/2006 2:07:25 AM PDT by caspera
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To: Hong Kong Expat

Osama has lost a lot and is getting away with nothing. Do you think voting for Dems is going to get Osama?


29 posted on 09/18/2006 3:12:09 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Hong Kong Expat

Who is getting away with it? Bin Laden is in hiding, much of his organization in shambles and he is on the run. We just haven't found his spyder hole yet.

The only kick in the nuts is when fellow citizens are on the side of the terrorists and condemn our country for not understanding the muslim scum who are so peaceful they threaten to cut off our heads if we don't believe them.


37 posted on 09/18/2006 6:57:14 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (If Bin Laden were a woman, Clinton would have nailed him.)
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