Posted on 09/17/2006 4:22:33 PM PDT by lainie
In the picturesque northwest corner of Montana only 30 miles from Glacier National Park, signs have begun to appear on windows in the city of Kalispell that proclaim "No Hate Here."
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The two teens are those spokeskids for white separatists, Lamb and Lynx Gaede, who vaulted to international attention after they appeared on ABC's "Primetime" last year.
The girls, their mother, April, and stepfather Mark Harrington recently moved to Montana from Bakersfield, Calif., after April told "Primetime" that Bakersfield was "not white enough." Now Kalispell has put the family on notice, "Not in my backyard."
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"And if memory serves, America actually fought an actual war against the principles they espouse."
America should have fought a war against these principles, but did not. America tolerated Hitler throughout his rise to power. America fought a war over unprincipled people taking real estate.
Hitler is dead and irrelevant.
You would think, right? But apparently he's still relevant to these kids.
This may sound a bit hypercritical, but I actually object to the term "white trash." The last of the socially acceptable racial slurs.
But the pole dancer thing was too good a line to pass up...
I think that they moved. Isn't that the point? That Bakersfield wasn't "white enough" for them? They moved. I'd think that was about what one should do if one did not want to socialize with persons of color.
To be fair, they're the most talented neo-Nazi musical group made up of pre-teen identical twin girls I've ever heard. Which is kind of like saying that I'm the best dancer in this room right now (for the record, I'm here alone).
It's kind of like watching a bear juggle. It's not amazing because he does it well. It's amazing that he does it at all.
And it's one that cuts both ways. When you feel the need to specify "white trash," it carries the implication that anyone who isn't white is assumed to be trashy. Why else specify?
But the pole dancer thing was too good a line to pass up...
Indeed. Chris Rock has a great bit about becoming a new father, and realizing that suddenly his whole purpose in life is to keep his baby daughter off the pole.
I don't see it that way. My sense of the word "white trash" is that I've rarely (outside of southern states) heard the word "trash" used alone.
If anything, perhaps, it implies that by being white there is no excuse for being trash. Though this is something I'd have to give some thought to...my main objection is that, like all other racial slurs, it's marginalizing.
True enough but their new neighbours have just as much right to reject them as they would have rejecting people of color, and everyone else they hate.
Face it these people are losers, scum, trash and anything they think or believe is worthless. If they moved in to my neighbourhood I'd want them gone as well.
I'm thinking Shaquille O'Neal. That would make their parents' heads explode.
Three words: Dennis Keith Rodman.
BAKERSFIELD - The young twin girls accused of being white supremacists were on the Inga Barks Radio Talk Show Thursday with their mother on Kern Radio to spread the message of their beliefs.
Lamb and Lynx Gaede said their message is not about hate, but pride, and accused the media of portraying them as being brainwashed by an overbearing racist mother.
The city’s TV news stations were present as well as a documentary film crew from London.
The girls received international notoriety after their Prussian Blue songs were accused of having a racist message instilled in them.
The Tehachapi twins have garnered more international attention with a white nationalist website, and two CD’s to push the family’s beliefs through music.
But despite the many forms of media where the two are allowed to express themselves, the family still feels they have been misrepresented.
“We respect what you believe, but you should be the same with our views. You shouldn’t call us haters and Nazis,” Lamb Gaede said.
When the fact the girls wore Hitler t-shirts was mentioned on the show, Lamb Gaede said, “We did but that was a joke. It was one time. It wasn’t serious.”
The two 14-year-olds alongside their mother, April Gaede, spoke on the radio about what is serious about their beliefs.
“We don’t hate people. Obviously it would be pretty retarded to hate someone for the color of their skin,” Lynx Gaede said. “Basically, all we want to do is preserve our heritage.”
“I think there are differences in races,” said April Gaede. “I don’t think that it’s a negative thing. I think it can be a positive thing.”
In 2005 the twins were prohibited from performing at the Kern County Fair, and a short time later they left the area to move to Montana.
“There are a lot of people up there who have very similar ancestry to us,” April Gaede said, “and there are a lot of clubs and organizations and festivals that celebrate our European heritage a lot more than down here.”
“The response I want to have to someone who I think has racist views is I want to hate them, but they’re beautiful young ladies who I really think have been so influenced by their upbringing,” said Barks.
That upbringing leaves the girls facing constant criticism and rejection from even their own race in which they claim pride.
Barks said she thought for weeks about the decision to have the group on her show, and decided that it was important for the community to understand their views and the views of the sub-culture they are a part of before passing judgment.
She does not regret her decision and hopes that the interview was, at the least, educational.
http://www.kget.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=220E05AE-EE21-47AB-A043-D912CDA4B3F0
That's absolutely reprehensible ... the girls probably have no idea what they're doing ... the mother and stepfather should be tarred, feathered, and ridden out of town on a rail.
I don't understand, what does this prove. They are marketers of hate pure and simple. The fact that they say they wore the Hitler t-shirts as joke was maybe funny to them and their ilk but I believe that the 6+ million jews killed by that lunatic don't find it funny.
Package these losers any way you like, their view are abhorent.
Their mother said, "basically, all we want to do is preserve our heritage." I think that's a ruse. If it was "all" she wants, she'd be living her life, raising her kids according to her beliefs privately. Instead she's allowing them to write and perform odes to Rudolf Hess. The evidence is strong and widespread, that these kids are the product of their mother's influence. She's a white nationalist, putting it kindly.
There is nothing wrong with people like me stating our opinions, that situations like this are bad.
Thanks Riverman94610. I fortified myself with a Tim Hortons coffee and thought -seeing the red letters, a rocket for yours truly.
Glad we cleared the air. Not to bombard you with unwanted thoughts but..... I remember an educated Black man stating at the height of the racial troubles in Alabama this. He said he would rather know where he stood with whites. He could even deal with an old fashioned "red neck".
His problem was with those who appeared to embrace integration, giving the black people a false idea. Then they would draw discreetly away.
I am not making this up to prove a point. I believe what I have said, will be confirmed in a general sense. My attitude which has stood me well, hard earned, having made mistakes is- treat others as you would have them treat you. Possibly your own philosophy. (Laughs).
Nothing like more information to give ALL sides, thanks. My ten pin bowling sessions call (laughs). I hope this lively and sometimes a little acerbic give and take continues. I will access again at about 1pm PST.
I have just got time to say that there are more pressing things in this old world, than a long dead dictator. He is a bit of an old red herring, since he ain't coming back.
I don't think any of us know them. And, they are 13 or 14. And, as far as I know they haven't done anything against the law, but posters here are ready to have them meet up with ron Jeremy (presumably for rape or sex) or some black thug or run them out of town or have them burn in Hell.
I just think that it depends who you read that creates all this hate. And since it all started with ABC, I'm skeptical.
Like this old country classic, Knoxville Girl
We did not fight a war against principles. We fought a war against nations because of their leaders' threatening, destructive and illegitimate actions. Had Hitler stayed within his borders we would not have fought him.
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signs have begun to appear on windows in the city of Kalispell that proclaim "No Hate Here."
Signs on window, must be a Montana thing.
Light in Montana: How One Town Said No to Hate
by Jo Clare Hartsig and Walter Wink
Montana, long known as ?big sky? territory, is vast and beautiful, like all its northwestern neighbors. One might assume that there is room enough for everyone. Yet over the past decade the five-state area of Washington, Oregon, Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana has been designated a ?white homeland? for the Aryan Nation and growing numbers of kindred skinheads, Klan members, and other white supremacists. These groups have targeted nonwhites, Jews, gays, and lesbians for harassment, vandalism, and injury, which in some cases has led to murder.
In Billings, Montana (pop.83,000) there have been a number of hate crimes: desecration of a Jewish cemetery, threatening phone calls to Jewish citizens, swastikas painted on the home of an inter-racial couple. But it was something else that activated the people of faith and goodwill throughout the entire community.
On December 2, 1993, a brick was thrown through 5-year-old Isaac Schnitzer?s bedroom window. The brick and shards of glass were strewn all over the child?s bed. The reason? A menorah and other symbols of Jewish faith were stenciled on the glass as part of the family?s Hanukkah celebration. The account of the incident in the Billings Gazette the next day reported that Isaac?s mother, Tammie Schnitzer, was troubled by the advice she got from the investigating officer. He suggested that she remove the symbols. How would she explain this to her son?
Another mother in Billings was deeply touched by that question. She tried to imagine explaining to her children that they couldn?t have a Christmas tree in the window or a wreath on the door because it wasn?t safe. She remembered what happened when Hitler ordered the king of Denmark to force Danish Jews to wear the Star of David. The order was never carried out because the king himself and many other Danes chose to wear the yellow stars. The Nazis lost the ability to find their ?enemies.?
There are several dozen Jewish families in Billings. This kind of tactic could effectively deter violence if enough people got involved. So Margaret McDonald phoned her pastor, the Rev. Keith Torney at the First Congregational United Church of Christ, and asked what he thought of having Sunday school children make paper cut-out menorahs for their own windows. He got on the phone with his clergy colleagues around town, and the following week menorahs appeared in the windows of hundreds of Christian homes. Asked about the danger of this action, police chief Wayne Inman told callers, ?There?s greater risk in not doing it.?
Five days after the brick was thrown at the Schnitzer home, the Gazette published a full-page drawing of a menorah, along with a general invitation to put it up. By the end of the week at least six thousand homes (some accounts estimate up to ten thousand) were decorated with menorahs.
A sporting goods store got involved by displaying ?Not in our town! No hate. No violence. Peace on earth? on its large billboard. Someone shot at it. Townpeople organized a vigil outside the synagogue during Sabbath services. That same night bricks and bullets shattered windows at Central Catholic High school, where an electric marquee read ?Happy Hanukkah to our Jewish Friends.? The cat of a family with a menorah was killed with an arrow. Windows were broken at a United Methodist Church because of its menorah display. The car and house windows of six non-Jewish families were shattered. A note that said ?Jew lover? was left on a car.
Eventually these incidents waned, but people continued in their efforts to support one another against hate crimes. After being visited at home and threatened by one of the local skinhead leaders, Tammie Schnitzer is now always accompanied by friends when she goes on her morning run. During the Passover holiday the following spring, 250 Christians joined their Jewish brothers and sisters in a traditional Seder meal. New friendships have formed, new traditions have started, and greater mutual understanding and respect have been achieved.
Last winter families all over Billings took out their menorahs to reaffirm their commitment to peace and religious tolerance. The light they shared in the community must be continuously rekindled until hate has been overcome.
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