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To: wagglebee
Huge error in the first paragraph, trying to conflate a vegetative state with brain death. Those are different things. Brain death means there is no brain activity. In a vegetative state there is brain activity -- even wakefulness -- but no apparent awareness of one's surroundings.

No doctor would declare a person in a vegetative state to be "brain dead."
8 posted on 09/17/2006 10:02:13 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian ("Don't take life so seriously. You'll never get out of it alive." -- Bugs Bunny)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

Beat me by two minutes. Shouldn't have spent so long searching for an explanation of this. ;-)


11 posted on 09/17/2006 10:05:35 AM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
they are doing that now with "non-brain dead" donations, those with still limited brain function, that can't breath on their own.

quote from this local group "when meaningful, brain activity has ceased" what is meaningful? terry schiavo wasn't

also donation after cardiac death, "hurry as soon as their heart stops, let their brain die, resuscitate and harvest"

Donation After Cardiac Death DCD their heart has stopped, they're dead

if anyone doesn't want to take my word, and I would look it up myself anyway, check out the new criteria that they are asking for, the above plus they want only to have one person determine brain death, it is such a money driven industry that along the way helps people, but is IMMUNE to LIABILITY,
REGULATION, AND MORALITY
13 posted on 09/17/2006 10:15:34 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: Celtjew Libertarian; ahayes

So are you supportive of the forced death of people with PVS?


14 posted on 09/17/2006 10:19:54 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
No doctor would declare a person in a vegetative state to be "brain dead."

You're right. That's an MSM error.

The pro-death crowd has had a method of dealing with the dilemma of patients who are merely PVS, not brain dead.

The ghouls can find relatives to "speak on behalf" of the PVS person, to tell a sympathetic judge that the patient does not want to be kept alive "that way."

Voila. The patient is killed and becomes brain (and body) dead.

22 posted on 09/18/2006 7:22:08 AM PDT by syriacus (Dems on the DEEP SIX COMMISSION have attempted to cover up Clinton administration's 911 mistakes.)
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