Posted on 09/16/2006 1:52:39 PM PDT by Kaslin
The Pope needs to make no apology whatsoever. The Koran is evidence against itself. And all of those mindless muslims screaming for apology/retribution/revenge are the evolutionary dead end of our time.
I guess it's time to increase the defenses around the Vatican.
Islam is an evil empire.
In the seventh conversation edited by Professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the jihad (holy war).So it would seem the Islamists' objection is to the historical record.... he turns to his interlocutor somewhat brusquely with the central question on the relationship between religion and violence in general, in these words:
Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.The emperor goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul.God is not pleased by blood, and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death....
The decisive statement in this argument against violent conversion is this: not to act in accordance with reason is contrary to God's nature. The editor, Theodore Khoury, observes: "For the emperor, as a Byzantine shaped by Greek philosophy, this statement is self-evident. But for Muslim teaching, God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality." Here Khoury quotes a work of the noted French Islamist R. Arnaldez, who points out that Ibn Hazn went so far as to state that God is not bound even by his own word, and that nothing would oblige him to reveal the truth to us. Were it God's will, we would even have to practice idolatry.
Islamists want no historic record. No civilization.
Pope has been harshly critical of USA's WOT, and now maybe he'll see first hand how nuts these people are.
All Muslims want is "regime change" at the Vatican. That's all.
The Swiss Guard better go to the mattresses.
Note to all muslims everywhere: Drop dead. Sooner is better than later
The Pope quoted a 14th Century Emperor. The Islamos are stuck in the 14th Century anyway. They think the words are current. Next, they will be demanding the head of that Emperor.
The problem is that the words are current.
The Muslims are stuck in the 14th century, and are still the same way as that emperor said they were then.
They are violent, suspicious, uneducated, and paranoid.
The media covers the Pope, the way they cover President Bush.
It's two-dimensional. There's no sense of morality, just a sports score, or a contest of wills, being reported on.
Liberals are so simplistic about everything.
The teachings of Christ are precisely what offends these radical Muslims. I guess the teachings of Christ are against the teachings of Christ if we follow Pope Shenouda's logic.
Sad to see this remark from him. I hope that this has been mistranslated or taken out of context.
Pope has been harshly critical of USA's WOT, and now maybe he'll see first hand how nuts these people are.
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Excellent point.
Apologize? In New Jersey they were jumping for joy.
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"We are a religion of peace!!! Now apologize or we will kill you in Allah's name!!!!!!
It's two-dimensional. There's no sense of morality, just a sports score, or a contest of wills, being reported on.
Well expressed and a very perceptive comment.
If he does, we're all doomed. Besides, what he said is well documented fact.
Exactly. I just told him the same thing. I hope he does not capitulate, but remains strong in the face of evil. Here is his email address: benedictxvi@vatican.va
Allah said its OK.
Cairo's grand sheik obviously did not read Pope Benedict's remarks, or if he did, he obviously did not understand them. Besides, ignorance can be cured. Stupidity cannot.
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