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Problems Alleged in Execution of Crips Co-Founder
streetgangs.com via LA Times ^ | September 6, 2006 | Henry Weinstein

Posted on 09/16/2006 9:24:38 AM PDT by mcg2000

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To: mcg2000
Why don't we use the Guillotine ?

It is fast and reliable, if a bit messy. It works the same on everyone.

21 posted on 09/16/2006 9:35:03 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: mcg2000
Lawyers for another condemned inmate say Stanley Tookie Williams may have felt horrible pain.

How much pain did he cause?

In other words I won't lose any sleep over Tookie regardless.

22 posted on 09/16/2006 9:35:21 AM PDT by Condor 63
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To: mcg2000

Did he do the Tookie Shuffle?

Shame if he did and I missed it.


23 posted on 09/16/2006 9:36:06 AM PDT by Eaker (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . .. Heaven)
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To: steve in DC
Well,it is all idle speculation until Tookie testifies to what he either did, or did not, feel.

ROFL. I'm sure he'll testify via video conference from somewhere in Hell.

24 posted on 09/16/2006 9:36:16 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: mcg2000

Poor baby.


25 posted on 09/16/2006 9:36:30 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: mcg2000

Pain? so what. He has no right and society has no obligation to insulate from pain.


26 posted on 09/16/2006 9:37:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: mcg2000
Stanley Tookie Williams may have felt horrible pain.

Did I miss something in Civilization 101?

I thought the point of prison and the death penalty was to deter crime through being scared sh*tless vs being civil.

This looks like it promoted that theory in spades.
(oops. PC slip up)

27 posted on 09/16/2006 9:38:05 AM PDT by llevrok (When you take my gin from my cold, dead hand....)
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To: mcg2000

Dig him up and execute him again more humanely!


28 posted on 09/16/2006 9:39:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("If you're going through Hell, keep on going! Don't look back ... if you're scared, don't show it!")
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To: dighton

This one goes to -11


29 posted on 09/16/2006 9:39:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The old method of cutting off the head with a short knife is still working in varous islamic lands, and the old method of a rifle bullet in the back of the head still works in various communist and emerging former communist states, and can be done by rank amateurs with no training at all.


30 posted on 09/16/2006 9:39:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: mcg2000

Horrible pain while being executed for crimes involving horrible pain for the victim? Sounds like justice to me...the true meaning of "an eye for an eye"


31 posted on 09/16/2006 9:39:44 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: mcg2000

Punishment is supposed to be swift and just. In my opinion, the pain Tookie Williams put the public through by keeping himself alive through appeals, outweighs any minor discomfort this puke may have felt as he was finally being put out of OUR misery.


32 posted on 09/16/2006 9:39:45 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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[Lawyers asserted that executions are] performed by prison personnel with criminal records of misconduct and who lack skill, competence, professionalism, patience, stability, training, qualifications, mental health and the necessary character to perform executions and the tasks associated with executions."

Yeah, but the only people we could find to take the job were all lawyers.

33 posted on 09/16/2006 9:39:55 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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To: mcg2000

So what's the problem here. He got caught and executed. It is, as they say, "the way the Tookie bumbles."


34 posted on 09/16/2006 9:40:49 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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Good morning.

Didn't the late Tookie joke to friends about the noises his victim made as he died?

It's good that Tookies gone. Who's next?

Michael Frazier
35 posted on 09/16/2006 9:40:50 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: mcg2000

I say dig him up and do it again until we get it right.


36 posted on 09/16/2006 9:41:06 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: avg_freeper
"By horrible pain they mean blissful and euphoric right?"

Perhaps they should switch from lethal injection to death by starvation since it's supposed to be such a "peaceful" way to go.

37 posted on 09/16/2006 9:41:18 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mcg2000
...which asserts that condemned prisoners may not be properly anesthetized and therefore experience excruciating pain during executions.

And this is a bad thing?

The reason the death penalty isn't the deterrent it could be is the prisoners are all treated like pets being euthanized by a veterinarian while being hidden from the public as they slip off to sleep.

If we showed them screaming and moaning and pissing in terror as they were led to the gallows, the deterrent effect of the death penalty would be fully restored.

As it is, death for criminals who deserve it is so sanitary and abstract that the little idiots on the outside who are told some crimes can get you killed are just too stupid to see the consequences. Show Tookie and his ilk in the full light of day approaching an impending death full of pain and fear and they will be more likely to understand their own mortality.
38 posted on 09/16/2006 9:41:53 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: mcg2000

I say dig him up and do it again until we get it right.


39 posted on 09/16/2006 9:42:36 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: mass55th

I remember reading that Tookie looked annoyed at the time it took them to find a vein and administer the injections. What was he thinking, "That's sixty seconds of my life I'll never get back."? My first reaction was that his travail would make a most excellent Snickers ad, "Not going any place soon?"


40 posted on 09/16/2006 9:42:57 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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