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Reborn (Schiavo supporters may have been right.)
Guardian Unlimited ^ | September 12 2006 | Helen Pidd

Posted on 09/16/2006 8:44:44 AM PDT by Jawn33

Perhaps the last word should go to Pat Flores, the mother of George Melendez, the 31-year-old coma patient who reassured his parents that he wasn't in pain after taking Ambien, as zolpidem is known in the US. He was starved of oxygen when his car overturned and he landed face down in a garden pond near his home in Houston, Texas, in 1998. "The doctors said he was clinically dead - one said he was a vegetable," says Pat. "After three weeks he suffered multi-organ failure and they said his body would ultimately succumb. They said he would never regain consciousness."

He survived and four years later, while visiting a clinic, Pat gave him a sleeping pill because his constant moaning was keeping her and her husband, Del, awake in their shared hotel room. "After 10 to 15 minutes I noticed there was no sound and I looked over," she recalls. "Instead of finding him asleep, there he was, wide awake, looking at his surroundings. I said, 'George', and he said, 'What?' We sat up for two hours asking him questions and he answered all of them. His improvements have continued and we talk every day. He has a terrific sense of humour and he carries on running jokes from the day before.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: activism; ambien; doctors; medicine; schiavo; stilnox; zolpidem
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To: ContraryMary

In many cases, the Nazi line is just a cop out. So must Nazis be therefore excluded from any argument?

The ovens at Auschwitz were deemed legal by German courts during the war. Thus, it was legal to kill Jews in them. It was not, however, moral.

Do you disagree with that statement?


141 posted on 09/17/2006 12:41:18 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: ContraryMary
Sigh! Here we go again... When we can't come up with a cogent argument, resort to the Nazi line...

A weak strawman argument to say the least. I ignore those comments since they add nothing to the discussion at hand.

-Traveler

142 posted on 09/17/2006 12:43:32 PM PDT by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Hildy
Yes, I would. Did you read this article?

There is a drug that is pulling people out of Vegetative states. New medicine happens all the time. Why die when you don't have to?

I'm talking about being hooked up to a machine for life. That's what you said about your Aunt, right?

No. My Aunt Wanda was never on any machines. She required food and water, but no life support.

Likewise, Terri Shiavo was not on any machines. She was not on life support.

143 posted on 09/17/2006 12:44:56 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: ContraryMary

Sorry, her parents did not request any monetary support. They were willing to forgo all insurance and settlement money. But Michael wanted her dead.


144 posted on 09/17/2006 12:45:53 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Traveler59

Ok, then slavery. Slavery was legal, but it was not moral. Would you then have been in favor of slavery just because a court said it was ok?


145 posted on 09/17/2006 12:46:43 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

This drug helped ONE person. Again, I would never, ever ask my loved ones to give up their lives to take care of MY BODY in hopes that someday there MIGHT be a drug that MIGHT enable me to open my eyes. 40 years in a vegetative State? IT'S SELFISH...plain and simple.


146 posted on 09/17/2006 12:48:06 PM PDT by Hildy (I have two horses..their names? Snoopy and Prickly Pete.)
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To: TAdams8591; Traveler59
That'a just the point. She wasn't being kept alive by extraordinary means like a heart machine. She was taken off "food."

"Food" that was being administered by extraordinary means. Let's face reality here. Terri wasn't eating cheeseburgers or sandwiches or cereal. She was being fed a mixture -- via an abdominal tube -- that was developed to provide all the nutrients required by her body: a sludge that was nutritionally balanced.

147 posted on 09/17/2006 12:48:15 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Sorry, this is a Terri thread -- not a Nazi thread.


148 posted on 09/17/2006 12:50:03 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: Hildy

No, read the article. It has helped dozens of people, in fact it has helped every single person it has been tried on.

Sorry you fear life so much.


149 posted on 09/17/2006 12:50:43 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: qman
You are a superman and a super-family!
150 posted on 09/17/2006 12:50:54 PM PDT by bvw
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To: ContraryMary

Just because a court rules something is legal, does not mean that it is moral.

Or is that too complicated for you?


151 posted on 09/17/2006 12:51:21 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I suggest you read up on ALL the history. This was about money.


152 posted on 09/17/2006 12:51:27 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Again...Tsk, Tsk. Always attack your opponent when you have no validity to your position...


153 posted on 09/17/2006 12:53:27 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: ContraryMary

Perhaps if Michael had not stopped her health care workers from feeding her orally she wouldn't have been on a feeding tube.


154 posted on 09/17/2006 12:53:27 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: ContraryMary

It was immoral to starve and dehydrate her to death. That is my position.

How is that invalid?


155 posted on 09/17/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Or perhaps if Michael had not prevented the "health care" workers from endangering her...what might have happened?


156 posted on 09/17/2006 12:54:50 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: ContraryMary

No, this was about Terri.


157 posted on 09/17/2006 12:55:06 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Traveler59

The case was covered very closely here on FR, and among those most closely following was T'wit. To wit, it is youself in the out-lands, not t'wit.


158 posted on 09/17/2006 12:55:19 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I'm saying your supporting arguments are invalid.


159 posted on 09/17/2006 12:55:48 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Nope.


160 posted on 09/17/2006 12:56:23 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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