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Please, explain, Sen. McCain
Washington Times ^ | 9/19/06

Posted on 09/16/2006 7:05:40 AM PDT by freespirited

President Bush wasted no time yesterday responding to the Senate Armed Services Committee's passage of legislation that could damage the ability of intelligence agencies to obtain information from terrorist detainees. On Thursday, four Republicans [on] the Senate Armed Services Committee -- John Warner and John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins -- joined committee Democrats in passing flawed legislation governing detainee treatment that fails to respond to Bush's critical request. The lawmakers must clarify what interrogators can and cannot do when interrogating suspected jihadists.

... ...it would be difficult to imagine a more irresponsible decision... American forces captured Abu Zubaydah -- a top bin laden aide who ran terrorist camps in which some of the September 11 hijackers trained -- several months after the attacks. ... Zubaydah refused to cooperate with U.S. interrogators. So, the CIA, used an unspecified "alternative" interrogation methods approved by Justice Department lawyers. Eventually, Zubaydah cracked and provided information that enabled the military to prevent an al Qaeda attack inside the United States.

Zubaydah also provided information that lead to the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and Ramzi Binalshibh, who helped organize the September 11 attacks. They also led authorities to the capture of the leader al Qaeda's south Asian affiliate, Hambali, and 17 operatives. ... Hambali acknowledged that terrorists were being prepared for new attacks on the U.S. , probably using airplanes,...

But the concerns expressed by Bush and CIA Director Michael Hayden have failed to budge McCain. On Thursday, the Arizona Republican disparaged Hayden's legitimate concerns about the Senate bill as an attempt to "protect his reputation at the risk of America's reputation." It's a cheap shot. McCain should explain why he is endangering a vital interrogation program that has saved many American lives.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: genevaconvention; interrogation; loosecannonmccain; mccain; rino; terrorism
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To: freespirited

InSane & Co think if you withhold Ice from their Lemonade they will talk. Irony that he was tortured to get his info in Nam.

The theory that he needs a damaged GOP to get the nomination makes more sense than this bill.

Pray for W and Our Troops


41 posted on 09/16/2006 7:44:18 AM PDT by bray (Voting for the Rats is a Deathwish)
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To: freespirited

Yeah and the next time there's a terrorist attack in the USA and people are killed, John Warner and John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins can go to the houses of the surviving family members and tell them how possibly the attack could have been prevented if they hadn't voted to stop alternative interrogation methods because "we're better then that", and when they leave they can shake their hand,pat em on the back and wish them good weather for the funeral !!!


42 posted on 09/16/2006 7:46:53 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: A message

The Media Darling has forgot one little voter group to get the nomination, Republicans.

Pray for W and Our Troops


43 posted on 09/16/2006 7:47:11 AM PDT by bray (Voting for the Rats is a Deathwish)
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To: freespirited

McCain is the lint between the toes of America's representative government.


44 posted on 09/16/2006 7:48:47 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: freespirited; trisham; Enterprise

I agree that McCain as the Republican nominee is probably not going to happen, but I smell another Ross Perot type move in the works. Secretly encouraged by the 'rats, as the Clintonistas did for Perot, John "Ego" McCain as a third party candidate would splinter the Republican vote and assure the victory of whatever sorry excuse for a candidate the 'rats have chosen to nominate.


45 posted on 09/16/2006 7:51:51 AM PDT by MelonFarmerJ (Proudly voting Republican/conservative in every election since 1964)
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To: elhombrelibre

'Please call these Senators........'

Toll free number of U.S. Capitol switchboard 1-888-355-3588
..ask operator to connect to Senators offices. Yesterday, just got answering machine but left messages.

We all need to call to let them know their PRIORITY should be to protect America. No matter how much money we give enemies or how politically correct we are, they'll hate us. This President is trying to protect our great nation and these Senators should be helping him ! They're a disgrace.


46 posted on 09/16/2006 7:54:00 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: freespirited

Absolutely traitorous actions by these elected officals!


47 posted on 09/16/2006 7:54:53 AM PDT by pointsal (q)
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To: BigGuy

Thanks for posting. If ever there was a worthy cause to post, this is it.

McCain and the other three had better wake up and realize the threat to our country before many more innocent Americans are murdered.


48 posted on 09/16/2006 7:56:03 AM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: MelonFarmerJ
I agree that McCain as the Republican nominee is probably not going to happen, but I smell another Ross Perot type move in the works. Secretly encouraged by the 'rats, as the Clintonistas did for Perot, John "Ego" McCain as a third party candidate would splinter the Republican vote and assure the victory of whatever sorry excuse for a candidate the 'rats have chosen to nominate.

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It's possible. As you say, he does have the ego for it.

49 posted on 09/16/2006 7:59:59 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MelonFarmerJ
John "Ego" McCain as a third party candidate would splinter the Republican vote and assure the victory of whatever sorry excuse for a candidate the 'rats have chosen to nominate.


I do not agree. I think the dimwits would loose more votes to mccrazy than the Republicans. If he were to run third party the Republicans would surely expose him for what he really is, and that he is much more closely aliened with the democratic platform.
50 posted on 09/16/2006 8:00:48 AM PDT by John D
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To: freespirited
Dear South Carolina neighbors...

If you can't [quickly] get Sen Graham's head turned around and re-installed in a right-thinking position....

Please do your duty -- Recall him/Replace him...
We have already replaced Cynthia McKinney-- Now relieve us all of your burdens...

Thanks in adavnce

51 posted on 09/16/2006 8:00:49 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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To: freespirited
At least McCain has an excuse for doing crazy things (he's nuts). What excuse do some of the others have?
52 posted on 09/16/2006 8:01:47 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: freespirited

"Please, explain, Sen. McCain"

He has been infected with "satanicus virillis"... a.k.a. liberalism.

LLS


53 posted on 09/16/2006 8:01:55 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: MelonFarmerJ
You are probably right and McLame has the ego to think he can pull it off this time. I'm sure his calculus is that enough republicans would be terrified of Hillary winning that they would vote for him as the most lilely to win. It's essentially the same rationale people in CT will use to vote for Lieberman.

Another thought on this is that the debate has shifted to a discussion of HOW the Geneva convention applies to combatants never intended to be covered by it. Is that battle well and truly over? Is there not a case that would again ask the court the question but this time without Roberts having to recuse himself? Because that is the underlying problem here. Trying to twist a one-size-fits-all clause to insurgents as well as uniformed troops yields just what we're getting now.

What makes this debate utterly insane is that there's near universal disgust (outside of the ACLU, that is) at our not being able to examine that terrorist's notebook computer that would have revealed the 9-11 plot. Talk about ignoring the 9-11 Commission recommendations, though. SCOTUS has declared a universal prohibition against examining the "computer" of ANY captured jihadist now. When the next attack occurs - and it will - and the investigation reveals we had the planner in custody, staying in a room at the Four Seasons, there will be hell to pay ... but the victims will still be dead.

54 posted on 09/16/2006 8:09:42 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: John D

McCain has rode on his vietnam prisoner of war and become stinking wealthy on it. This summer he was selling his mansion to downsize. Probably brought a pretty big price over what he purchased it for as well.


55 posted on 09/16/2006 8:10:33 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Condor51

Agreed, but it was not the entire country, only some camps as you state. German high command eventually ordered that all pilots captured be shot.


56 posted on 09/16/2006 8:12:33 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: ground_fog

mclame will NEVER win the primaries... NEVER!

LLS


57 posted on 09/16/2006 8:13:41 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: BigGuy

2nd post!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=4715


58 posted on 09/16/2006 8:18:17 AM PDT by landerwy
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To: LibLieSlayer
He has been infected with "satanicus virillis"... a.k.a. liberalism.

No, he's not a liberal, he's a coniving, treacherous, mealy-mouthed sycophant.

He plays both ends against the middle to further his own ambition, and he is as corrupt as anyone in in Congress - he has already been censured by the ethics committee as a member of the Keating Five and regularly associated with crooks such as Charles Keating and Fife Symington.

He is trading the securuity of the nation to feed his own ambition

59 posted on 09/16/2006 8:26:34 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: freespirited

Why can we no longer charge the treasonous with treason and the seditious with sedition? What will it finally take?


60 posted on 09/16/2006 8:28:46 AM PDT by polymuser (Neoliberalism is a mental disorder.)
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