Please, explain, Sen. McCain

Washington Times ^ | 9/19/06

[freespirited]

President Bush wasted no time yesterday responding to the Senate Armed Services Committee's passage of legislation that could damage the ability of intelligence agencies to obtain information from terrorist detainees. On Thursday, four Republicans [on] the Senate Armed Services Committee -- John Warner and John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins -- joined committee Democrats in passing flawed legislation governing detainee treatment that fails to respond to Bush's critical request. The lawmakers must clarify what interrogators can and cannot do when interrogating suspected jihadists.

... ...it would be difficult to imagine a more irresponsible decision... American forces captured Abu Zubaydah -- a top bin laden aide who ran terrorist camps in which some of the September 11 hijackers trained -- several months after the attacks. ... Zubaydah refused to cooperate with U.S. interrogators. So, the CIA, used an unspecified "alternative" interrogation methods approved by Justice Department lawyers. Eventually, Zubaydah cracked and provided information that enabled the military to prevent an al Qaeda attack inside the United States.

Zubaydah also provided information that lead to the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and Ramzi Binalshibh, who helped organize the September 11 attacks. They also led authorities to the capture of the leader al Qaeda's south Asian affiliate, Hambali, and 17 operatives. ... Hambali acknowledged that terrorists were being prepared for new attacks on the U.S. , probably using airplanes,...

But the concerns expressed by Bush and CIA Director Michael Hayden have failed to budge McCain. On Thursday, the Arizona Republican disparaged Hayden's legitimate concerns about the Senate bill as an attempt to "protect his reputation at the risk of America's reputation." It's a cheap shot. McCain should explain why he is endangering a vital interrogation program that has saved many American lives.

[freespirited]

This is precisely the kind of thing that causes me to think Anyone But McCain (for 2008).

[Clara Lou]

I hope McCain, in particular, is present for the next Islamic attack on the US. You know, the one that we could not get information about in advance because of his RINO stance on this. [He's never going to be POTUS, anyway--which is what this is ultimately about--campaign rhetoric.]

[windsorknot]

Can we send this dolt back to Hanoi?

[BigGuy]

I am a LONG time lurker....I don't think I have ever posted but this incident with Sen. McCain has me INFURIATED.

[Diogenesis]

John Warner, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins' Approved Murders and Tortures of Americans:

AMERICANS MURDERED ON A BRIDGE IN FALLUJA BY ISLAMIC SUBHUMAN TERRORISTS

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John Warner, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins' Approved Murders and Tortures of Americans:

TORTURE OF AMERICANS BY ISLAMIC SUBHUMAN TERRORISTS.

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John Warner, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins' Approved Murders and Tortures of Americans:

1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
1972 Munich Olympics Sep-5,1972 (Black September)
1976 Entebbe Hostage Crisis, June 27, 1976
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, Nov. 4, 1979 444 days
1979 Grand Mosque Seizure, Nov 20,1979
1981 Assassination of Egyptian President, Oct 6,1981
1982 Assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister, Sept 14, 1982
1983 Bombing of US Embassy in Beirut6, April 18,1983
1983 Bombing of Maring Barricks, Beruit, Oct 23,1983
1984 Hizballah Restaurant Bombing, April 12,1984
1985 Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Nov 23,1985
1985 Rome Airport murders
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, Homacidal maniac lived in saddams Iraq
1986 Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered
1988 Berlin Discoteque Bombing, Dec 21,1988
1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered
2001 Flight 93 murders
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait
2002 Washington D.C. sniper
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured
2002 August Hotel bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia. 12 dead, dozens injured.
2003 Rusian concert bombing
2003 Phillipines airport and market bombing
2003 Foiled SAM plot in the USA
2003 UN Baghdad HQ Bombing
on and on and on and on their terrorism has gone .........

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John Warner, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins' Approved Murders and Tortures of Americans:

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John Warner, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins' Approved Future Murders and Tortures of Americans:

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith,
but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America,
and Islam the only accepted religion on earth"

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998

Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels.
So wound their bodies and incapacitate them
because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle,
inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them,
so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”

[trisham]

Don't worry. He has zero chance of getting the nomination.

[shankbear]

McCain is a doddering, press whoring RINO. He should run with Hillary as her boy v-p. They are cut from the same cloth. Get out of the party loser.

[jigsaw]

The more McCain loves himself, the more dangerous he becomes.

[ground_fog]

McCain is obviously trying to sabotage the Republicans in November so he can run as a third party candidate to beat Hillary. He and his little girlfrend Lindsay Graham (what a sellout)try to stop Bush every chance they get. It is too bad any courage and bravery John McCain had was all used up in Vietnam .He is a coward as a Senator. I will never vote for the man-even against the beast.

If Hillary is elected-so be it-we will have to build this country up from ruins after 4 years of her-but God willing-it can be done.

[elhombrelibre]

Please call these Senators and express your outrage. See post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1702254/posts

[sure_fine]

"Please, explain, Sen. McCain"





easy, he is a POS liberal

no matter what good can come from change, and progress going forward, liberals create a negative hypothetical situation and want to rule by it

[Laverne]

Between McCain's comment regarding Hayden, and Lindsey Graham now saying he wants an investigation into why the JAG has now stated he agrees with President Bush, these two have demonstrated it is their ego above all else. As for Warner (Mr. Elizabeth Taylor as holdonnow calls him)... he needs to look into retirement. These "republican leaders" who are making this issue on idiological grounds are simply no longer grounded in reality. Our troops are beheaded, mutilized, burned, booby-trapped and left on the streets -- and McCain, Graham, Collins, and Warner think that if we clarify rules for our CIA, our troops will be put in greater danger? Give me a break. Not much worse danger than getting beheaded and getting dead.

I have sent all four who voted for this travesty emails, and I presume several other freepers have as well. If you haven't, you can get to their email by going to www.senate.gov.

[lionheart 247365]

Speechless .

[ground_fog]

Graham makes me utterly sick as well. I think he and McCain are lovers. When McCain takes a crap-I'm sure Graham is there to wipe (excuse the language-a little pissed off)

[A message]

I have the opinion that McCain is setting himself up as the little Perot that could. He must be aware that he will not win the '08 Republican primary and therefore is establishing himself for a run as an Independent.

Go ahead McCain, chug, chug chug you little kookoo choo-choo. He thinks he can, he thinks he can, he thinks he can....... but just remember that was a fairy tale just like the chances of McCain ever being President.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

This is McCains way of keeping it (obliquely) in our faces that he was a POW, without much risk of creating the furor over the special treatment he received because his daddy was CINCPAC at the time.......It also avoids how he and kerry forcefully and dishonestly dismissed the notion that LIVE POW's were knowingly abandoned by USG.

On the subject of torture in Vn, many Americans were tortured to actual death and/or severe disabilities.....McCain is not one of this group.

Lastly, McCain has openly admitted that within a few days of his shootdown he gave the enemy military information pertaining to the US Navy and its operations.

This guy is bad news, and only a fraction of a cut above kerry in his less than honest attempt to use his Navy daze as a qualification for high office.

[bobsunshine]

McCain and the other 3 senators are only trying to show how strong they are and that they alone can stand up to The President. McCain should never be president and I for one will never ever vote for him or Graham or Wagner or Collins.

McCain says he is doing this to protect our troops if they get captured. What a line of bull. There has never been one US enemy that has adhered to the GC. As reported on Fox with Brit Hume yesterday, the European courts have already defined their interpretation of article 3, so why can't we? The European courts stated that not providing a captured soldier a private toilet, or playing loud noise, is against the GC. I think the band of 4 are using this as a political stunt and we the American people will suffer for it.

I have written to all 4 senators expressing by disappointment in their stand and we should be calling them all of them on Monday. We need to speak up and let them know how we feel about their decision.

[television is just wrong]

McCain is a traitor to his country, once a hero, now a traitor. Benedict Arnold was the same.

[DakotaRed]

There is absolutely no way I could ever support McLame. If he gets the '08 nod for POTUS, I will work as hard as I can to see his defeat. Thankfully, I doubt I will ever see it, unless he switches over to the Democrats, where he belongs.

It appears to me that he has placed his distain for Bush, over beating him in 2000, above his concern for America.

[ground_fog]

I will NEVER vote for a Senator to be President-I don't care who it is. There is a foul stench among the whole lot of them.