How Many Divisions Does The NY Times Have? Grey Lady Demands Apology From Pope

New York Times/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

[Earthdweller]

"I would like to ask where it's possible for one who is Jewish to be a citizen in the ME. Although Israel accepts Muslims as citizens."

I can think of no where that I would live in the ME if I were a Jew, with the radicals in charge.

Keep in mind, the real war started long before the US arrived in the ME. It's a war between the moderates and the radicals.

[Tessarie]

Did you catch this at Malkin, or perhaps it was posted here?

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/15/turkish-bestseller-who-will-kill-the-pope-in-istanbul/

[turbocat]

This has me totally wound up.

Read this piece at Sticky Notes. Most important, is the link to Asia News where there is the best overview on what the Pope really said and the context.

It goes on to tell how the MEDIA just picked sound bites out of context. And the uproar is from those who have no idea what was really said.

And neither does the MSM.

[Coldwater Creek]

You are right! I did not make myself clear. I was refering to the Arab/Middle East problems that are associated with Islam.

[Earthdweller]

???

[Coldwater Creek]

You are right! I did not make myself clear. I was referring to the Arab/Middle East problems that are associated with Islam.

[handy]

Did the Pope say anything that was not accurate?

[turbocat]

WRONG LINK _ sorry

Here is the right one on the Pope's message at Sticky Notes.

[rbg81]

One of the benefits of being Pope is:: you don't have to apologize to anyone.

[FarmerW]

I grew up in a small mid west farming town. We were Catholic, mostly of Irish descent. My great-grandmother instilled in everyone the idea that when "they" run out of Jews and blacks, they would come after us next. I am sure it was remnants of the NIDA times she had lived in, though she had been born in this country.

Now I live in a larger area which had an influx of immigrants. This subject came up between a group of people I was with once. The older Catholics in the group remembered been told similar things. Others, mostly non-Catholics were shocked.

When I heard the Pope had said these things, it just made me think of this and wondered if anyone else had similar memories.

[rbg81]

I find it funny that Khatami justified the execution of homosexuals at Harvard last week and all the idiot libs could do was sit in silence. I sincerely hope the Pope does not retract his statement. I am sick of the crazies going crazy and everyone standing down to them.


When the time is right, the libs will throw most of their current interest groups to the wolves to reap all those Muslim voters. The Jews, Gays, and Feminists are all expendable. The other components is violence. Libs know that they can mock Christians with near impunity. However, if you insult Islam, you will be watching your back forever.

[don-o]

IMO, the Pope is a 'dead man walking' from this day forward.

One could say he always has been. Satan hates the Catholic church. Always has - always will.

And Satan is running rampant over the earth these days.

[DB]

For those who believe in the The Prophecies of St. Malachy, there are only two Popes to follow John Paul II.

Pope Benedict XVI is not a young man. After he dies the "end times" are supposed to follow.

I'd guess most of us will be around to see if it is true or not...

[yankeedame]

...European community in general has had more harsh words for the US than the terrorists and their sponsors-- because they believe that there will be a Reformation. The Pope was responding that he disagreed with that view and I think that he is correct....

There will be no Reformation (note the capital "R") in Islam for the simple fact that,well, what have the upper crust to gain from it? The answer, of course, is nothing.

The German/Christian Reformation was nourished, sponsored, protected, and encouraged by German nobles and princelings tired of seeing rivulets of gold and silver flowing away from their realms -- and pockets -- towards Rome. They had a LOT of gain from a break with Rome, namely $$$$.

There isn't that set-up in Middle East/Islam. The nobles and princlings are doing just fine, thank you. In fact, the way things are set up, a Reformation is the last thing the upper crust wants.

[Gritty]

[don-o]

And thanks to you for passing it on. This is a tremendous opus by Papa Benedict!

[going hot]

..And plenty of lasix and beer to piss freely and frequently on their collective graves,

[SERKIT]

Did the Pope "take ownership" of the quote as if he believed in it, or was this a random quote in a speech taken out of context? I could quote Usama bin Laden in a speech to punctuate a point, but not espouse the quote. What was the Pope's context or reason for including this quote in the speech? BTW, I don't disagree with the premise of the Byzentine emperor's quote!

[defconw]

ROP?